Hi Thomas and Craig,

vmsperl.com c'est moi.

I would love to have someone set up a nice site.

e-mail me c...@comets.com and we'll figure it out.

At the moment it is on a clunky AlphaServer 800,
and yes, it looks like a placeholder.

But I'm up for moving it to DreamHost where I have
a hosting account.

Thanks.

Carl Friedberg
www.esb.com
The Elias Book of Baseball Records
2013 Edition


-----Original Message-----
From: Craig A. Berry [mailto:craigbe...@mac.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 10:51 PM
To: Thomas Pfau
Cc: vmsperl@perl.org List (vmsperl@perl.org)
Subject: Re: perl on vms website


On Dec 21, 2012, at 6:58 PM, Thomas Pfau <tfp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd really like to see what versions can be expected to compile on what 
> platforms.  I was trying to load 5.14.2 today on Itanium at work and kept 
> running into problems.  I think the last thing I saw anyone talk about on the 
> mailing list was 5.12.  I'd hate to start a build that had no hopes of 
> finishing successfully on my Alpha workstation at home.  It would be nice to 
> have a matrix of hardware/vms version/perl version describing what works and 
> what needs work.

In general you should start with the latest stable release.  5.16.2 is current 
and I can't think of reasons to prefer older versions if building on Alpha or 
Itanium with VMS versions from the last decade or so.  5.14.3 did have a build 
problem on VMS but I fixed it in the maint-5.14 branch at 
<http://perl5.git.perl.org/perl.git/commitdiff/fed0a1f9be8a538697f6b18597762d1a62b6acd5>.
  There will eventually be a 5.14.4 that includes this fix if you are tied to 
5.14.x for some reason.  Or you can get a snapshot of the current state of the 
maint-5.14 branch from 
<http://perl5.git.perl.org/perl.git/snapshot/maint-5.14.tar.gz>.

I build blead regularly on 8.3 and 8.4 Alpha and Itanium systems and rarely let 
build failures persist for more than a day or two.  Test failures are another 
issue.  I do what I can to keep them to a minimum, but there are too many tests 
for one very part time person to fix them all.  I recently got "Failed 13 tests 
out of 2137, 99.39% okay." with blead, which isn't 100% but isn't bad.

Once a year blead becomes the next stable release and the previous version gets 
only a small number of patches that are considered important.  At any given 
time, the next release (currently 5.18-to-be) and the previous two stable 
versions (currently 5.14.x and 5.16.x) are under active development.  I don't 
normally test release candidates for maintenance releases, but they rarely 
cause trouble because they have so few changes from the initial release in the 
series.  5.14.3 was an exception.  Of course if I weren't the only one doing 
frequent builds, we might have been able to catch that before it got out.

This is all by way of explaining where I focus my efforts and what I know is 
most likely to work, but of course there are many combinations of compiler 
version, VMS version, ECO level, Perl version, configuration options, etc., so 
folks should feel free to share their experiences.  I know I'm curious what 
people are running.


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