andy preston wrote:

> I think this is what you are talking about
> http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
>
> Andy
> --
> andy preston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Andy,

I took a quick read, and it seems that the point is that the
Reply-To shouldn't automatically be modified by the list
administrator, be it a person or a program.  It is a lengthy
article, but the point I got was that the decision should be
left to the sender.  I checked my outgoing mail, and I do
not have a Reply-To field.  Perhaps you could confim if it
is in the copy that you received.  If so, what does the
field say?

Regardless of whether automatic munging is implemented
(that's my first exposure to what munging is), I believe my
points about forum etiquitte still stand.  That is, I'd like
to join the forum, in digest form, because I find the digest
form manageable. And I do want to give back to the community
when I can, since I've benefitted from it alot (and still do).

I chose the digest to avoid individual emails in my mailbox;
but even for individuals that are not getting the digest, I can't imagine
anyone wanting to duplicate the emails they get.  Why is it
even necessary?

Assuming that there are cases when duplicated mailing is
appropriate, it is still confusing if the person receiving the email
directly doesn't know that it is being copied to the group.  You
wouldn't do this with a paper letter (you indicate cc's so that
everyone knows what kind of communication it is).  The fact that
the text is conveyed electronically doesn't change that.  Not
only is it improper, it fragments the thread and circumvents
purpose and benefits of the forum.

So even if munging wasn't implemented, the responsibility to
follow considerate etiquette then falls on the shoulders of
the individual senders.

Granted, the whole issue of why such a protocol is (in my
opinion) a big deal might be may not be agreeable to
everyone; it might even be simply an issue of mailer setup.
The latter reason is  why I was raised the idea of having
popular mailer setup info in the welcome...assuming
that the general readership agrees that duplicately received
email via the sender and the list is not generally
desirable, and that it should be clearly indicated in cases
where it is warranted (if ever).  It is also assuming that
it is practical, because there are probably many mailer
programs out there.  Regardless of whether this welcome info
actually provided, the issues of forum etiquette is still
valid.

On the other hand, if the sender decides that the information
is only appropiate to share with one recipient, I think the
single recipient would appreciate if the reasons for that
were in fact valid.  It would certainly not be the case if the
email was also sent to the group.  If the recipient wasn't made
aware of this, courtesy demands that he/she
not ignore a personal email, and in fact respond to it in a
timely manner.  This would be particularly true if in fact you think
you have information that might help; it's doing no one any
good to have it sitting up there in your head.  In that case, you
make the appropriate compromises in other priorities to
respond.  In contrast, a forum makes it easier for the
recipient to participate only as his/her circumstances permit.
You realize that it's not just up to you to provide a response,
and in someone much more experienced than you might
pick up the ball.  In any case, the sender isn't expecting you
specifically to respond, so it's not rude to attend to your
other priorities as you see fit.

It is somewhat sobering to spend the time to treat a personal
email with due respect, even though you can't imagine why it
was sent as a personal email, and then find that in fact it was
a mass email that wasn't indicated as such.  Though it may
not be the case, it would seem that you received a double
dose because the sender wanted to keep all the bases
covered.  You should have given it the same priority as you
would any other forum discusssion, which is what it should
have been restricted to; the reailty is, we all have limited time
and competing priorities, yet still want to respect the etiquette
of personal communication, which is what you thought it was,
even though there was no reason for it.

Suppose that you received such personal (but not really) email.
Even if you felt that the issue should have been public, you
don't post the response publically because you were lead to
believe that it was intended to be personal -- that's just proper
etiquette, you respect the sender's wish to avoid pubicity.
Then you find that it was actually a broadcast solicitation for help,
but you restricted your response to the sender only.  What is
the point of having a forum if the sender is going to circumvent
it with an independent channel of communication (a redundant
one at that), which doesn't benefit anyone else?

Fred
--
Fred Ma, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Carleton University, Dept. of Electronics
1125 Colonel By Drive, Ottawa, Ontario
Canada, K1S 5B6
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