Thanks, Beerse! I think a have learned a lot from you.
Have a nice day, George [EMAIL PROTECTED]>-La5=: >From:"Beerse, Corn? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: >To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: RE: RE: Meeting trouble when connecting VNC server running on Linux. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> There is one sentence in your reply which makes me >> puzzled. >> >> It is, >> >> -------- >> M$Windows, this needs to be at the console, >> for unix, there is no need, it might even not be possible >> -------- >> >> Do you mean M$Windows, Desktop needs to be at the console, >> for unix, desktop is no need, desktop might even not be possible? >> >> Or do you mean M$Windows, Desktop needs to be at the console, >> for unix, desktop at console is no need, desktop >> at console might even not be possible? > >The last one. For a more clear picture: a unix server most times does not >have any keyboard or video card build in, it only has a serial port, labeled >'console'. You can hook a serial terminal to this port and see the boot >messages and you can get a text-only login, about the same if you do a >telnet to a unix machine. > >With this setup, you can imagine it is verry hard to get a desktop, or >GraphicalUserInterface or such. There is just no hardware to do that. > >> >> The pronouns realy makes me puzzled. Does it mean desktop or >> desktop at console? What means "desktop at console" on earth? >> When I see desktop, I do not see anything behind it. > >In my description, the desktop is what you see in a graphical user >interface. On unix machines provided by display managers or windowmanagers >like KDE, Gnome, CDE and such. On M$Windows machines, it's the windows. > >For the vnc part, on unix, vnc provides a software-graphical-user-interface >that can be seen with vncviewer and used as if it is a hardware gui. > > > >> >> regards, >> George >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>-La5=: >> >From:"Beerse, Corn? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >Reply-To: >> >To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >Subject: RE: RE: Meeting trouble when connecting VNC server >> running on Li >> nux. >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> I have read some materials on VNC web site. >> >> I learned that there are really some differences >> >> between Windows and Linux graphic termial service. >> >> >> >> For example, on Windows only one graphic login is >> >> permitted. And on Windows more than one person can >> >> share the same desktop as VNC does. VNC Viewer does not >> >> really login but transmit desktop snapshots and events. >> >> But on Linux, allowing more than one person graphic >> >> mode login is possible but share the same desktop is impossible! >> > >> >There are some terms that needs to be specified here: >> > >> >Console: the terminal (keyboard and display, optionally >> mouse) where the >> >boot and system messages are displayed. This one is hooked >> to the machine or >> >even build into it. >> > >> >Desktop: What you see in front of you. M$Windows, this needs >> to be at the >> >console, for unix, there is no need, it might even not be possible. >> > >> >With vnc, on both unix and M$Windows, you get a desktop inside your >> >vncviewer. SInce M$Windows can only serve one desktop (the one at the >> >console) it is the desktop of the console you get from these >> vncservers. On >> >unix on the other hand, the default is that you get a fresh, >> new desktop. >> > >> >> >> >> But I do not find any materials about why more than >> >> one person can not share the same desktop on Linux. >> >> Is it because the kernel of Linux graphic terminal >> >> service? I am interested in this topic and want to >> >> learn more about it. >> > >> >On linux, more than one person can share the same desktop. >> Thats why you >> >cannot find any materials why more than one person cannot >> share the same >> >desktop. >> > >> >If you mixed desktop and console and need to know why you >> cannot see the >> >console in a vnc-session, then the major reason is that the origional >> >development was the other way round: it started the way it >> is on unix but >> >that could not be done at M$Windows. Currently, there are >> many ways to get >> >to the console with vnc. However, not on all systems. >> > >> >> >> >> Do you have some materials about it? >> >> Or some suggestions? >> >> >> > >> >http://xf4vnc.sourceforge.net/ >> > >> >http://www.hexonet.de/software/x0rfbserver/ >> >http://www.tjansen.de/krfb/ >> > >> > >> >there are more... >> > >> > >> >CBee _______________________________________________ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
