Have you guys heard of New Moon (www.newmoon.com)? They're positioning themselves as some Citrix competitor (with Microsoft's help). Tho I'm not sure exactly what their difference it.
--- T W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael, > Can you clarify the types of connections you are > describing below > when using Citrix? > > Are they: > > PC to PC > UNIX to PC > PC to UNIX > UNIX to UNIX > > Thanks > tj > > ** -----Original Message----- > ** From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Michael Milette > ** Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 9:51 AM > ** To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** Subject: Re: Citrix v. VNC > ** > ** > ** Unless you are running on a UNIX platform, the > most obvious > ** difference to > ** me is that VNC does not offer the option to have > multiple > ** concurrent users > ** make use of a single server. > ** > ** Here are some other advantages of Citrix over > VNC: > ** > ** - Multi-user: You can have many users use the > same machine at > ** the same time > ** - Automatic Local Drive, Printer, Sound, > Clipboard, Serial port mapping. > ** You get access to all of these remote peripherals > from within > ** your remote > ** session. (yes, I know VNC has limited clipboard > sharing). File > ** copying is > ** as simple as drag and drop from the server or > network drive to > ** your local > ** drive and back. I have even heard of some people > who are > ** hotsynching their > ** PDA's though the MetaFrame session. > ** - When you need to upgrade software, you need > only upgrade your Citrix > ** servers instead of a whole bunch of workstations. > Recent > ** versions of Citrix > ** MetaFrame even allow you to have the client > automatically upgraded on > ** remote PC's. > ** - Seamless sessions: Citrix MetaFrame allows you > to run applications in > ** their own window, as if they were really running > right on your desktop. > ** Even your whole desktop theme gets applied to the > application's > ** window like > ** colours and fonts. You can minimize, and resize > windows. It is > ** really well > ** integrated. You can even put shortcuts right on > the remote users desktop. > ** - Reliable sessions: Sessions are much more > responsive than VNC > ** sessions, > ** even over low bandwidth (like 28.8 dial-up modem > or less), due > ** to the way > ** the technology has been implemented. You will > virtually never see screen > ** update failures with the ICA client. > ** - Can be load balanced and clustered: If you have > several > ** servers, and one > ** server goes down or is very busy, the next user > will be connected to a > ** server that isn't as busy. > ** - Security: If you use technology like VNC or PC > Anywhere, each > ** workstation > ** requires its own IP address. Assuming that your > workstations are behind > ** firewalls, you will need a port open for each of > them. By contrast, > ** MetaFrame only requires a single port though > which everyone > ** connects. Also, > ** since it is a server, you have ultimate physical > control over > ** the machine > ** and can afford to put your money into better > quality hardware > ** and support > ** things like RAID or redundant power supplies, > thereby reducing > ** the chances > ** of system failure. > ** > ** Citrix MetaFrame is a great, cost effective tool > if you are running a > ** standardized environment. Depending on the > configuration of the > ** server and > ** the applications being used, each server can host > up to 100 concurrent > ** users. There isn't actually a fixed number. Its > more a matter of > ** how much > ** horsepower you give it (memory, CPUs, bandwidth, > etc). Sure it will cost > ** you more initially, but in the long run, your > maintenance costs > ** will be way > ** down when compared with an army of workstations > dedicated to > ** remote access. > ** > ** On the other hand, if everyone will be running > their own experiments in > ** their remote sessions, and virtually no two users > will be using the same > ** application, you would probably do better to have > them connect > ** to their own > ** workstation and let them mess that up. At least > when their machine goes > ** down, it won't take everyone else with them. > Although NT technology > ** prevents one application from crashing another, > there is nothing that > ** really prevents one application from consuming > virtually 100% of > ** the CPU so > ** as long as your applications are well behaved, > you won't have a problem. > ** > ** There is (or at least was) a less expensive > solution. Citrix may still > ** offer a product called WinFrame. Basically it is > based on the > ** Windows 3.51 > ** platform. Although it doesn't support the latest > GUI and hence > ** the latest > ** applications, it could suit your needs depending > on your > ** requirements. The > ** biggest advantage to WinFrame over other > solutions such as > ** Windows Terminal > ** Services or even Citrix MetaFrame is the > licensing. It is a very simple > ** concurrent licensing scheme. If you want to > support 1000 users, > ** but never > ** expect to have more than 40 users at any given > time, you need only worry > ** about getting 40 licenses. There are no CALS or > any other licenses > ** required. Its a great way to make a custom > application available to the > ** world for example. Contact Citrix if you don't > see it on their web site. > ** > ** If you only have a few users who would be using > such a service, > ** you might > ** want to give Windows XP Pro and it's "Remote > Desktop Connection" > ** a try. It > ** is basically a one user version of Windows > Terminal Services and > ** includes > ** many of the features available in MetaFrame. > Remember, one user > ** at a time, > ** whether they are local or remote. > ** > ** Expensive is all relative. Any good IT architect > will look beyond the > ** initial setup cost and weigh at the long term > costs like maintenance and > ** support as well as the benefits the technology > brings to the > ** organization > ** such as gains in productivity and flexibility. > ** > ** Sure VNC seems like a nice inexpensive technology > to implement > ** up front... > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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