My understanding is that the winning carrier submits the subscription,
issues an electronic WPR
(https://www.syniverse.com/files/Single_Line_WPR.pdf) - similar to an
LSR. The losing carrier verifies the WPR's accuracy (TN/PIN/Address/Zip)
and issues a confirmation and concurrence, and then the winning carrier
electronically activates in SOA.
Given this is 100% electronic (and all the majors use Syniverse for
their SOA) it's immediate. Wireless carriers don't really have to worry
about things like "do they have complex services like DSL, FTTH with
bundle packaging, etc". They just drop the customer's subscriber
information out of the switch and send a final bill.
-Paul
On 02/10/2016 11:50 AM, Mary Lou Carey wrote:
I really wonder if the big wireless carriers follow the same process
that wireline carriers do because the typical wireline process takes
more than 5 minutes to complete. The whole process is:
1. Issue an LSR order to the losing carrier requesting the port.
2. When you get confirmation, submit the port request in NPAC (or a
SOA system connected to NPAC)
3. Losing carrier confirms the port
4. Winning carrier accepts the port
The greatest portion of time is spent on getting the losing carrier to
accept the LSR and give confirmation, so I'm thinking these wireless
carriers must have agreements set up between them that allows them to
bypass the LSR process and just complete the NPAC work!
Mary Lou Carey
BackUP Telecom Consulting
615-791-9969
On February 10, 2016 at 9:57 AM Nick Olsen <n...@flhsi.com> wrote:
Exactly this.
I actually ported my personal cell number to Verizon from ATT yesterday.
Gave the rep my ATT account number, He 30 seconds later asked me for
the PIN I set on my ATT account. I provided and my number was working
before I hit the door on the way out. Total port time was <5 Min.
I questioned the Rep if this was always the case and he said only if
porting from Sprint/ATT/T-Mobile. And that basically any other
carrier (Not including MVNO's of the above) took 3-5 Business days.
Which is about in-line with my current wireline porting.
I figure they all exchange so many numbers a day it was in all of
their best interest to work together.
Not to mention, By automating the process. They don't have to keep an
entire call center worth of LNP personnel to handle their volume.
Nick Olsen
Network Operations
(855) FLSPEED x106
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*From*: "Alexander Lopez" <alex.lo...@opsys.com>
*Sent*: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 6:00 PM
*To*: "Alex Balashov" <abalas...@evaristesys.com>,
"voiceops@voiceops.org" <voiceops@voiceops.org>
*Subject*: Re: [VoiceOps] Instant Porting
I think the incentive is to cooperate because it is a relatively
small group of wireless carriers compared to wireline.
The main reason being that they don't want their ports held up, so
they work well with others.
Also since there is a small group they could automate the back office
processes between them and submit the request and aknowledgment
quickly and without human interaction.
-------- Original message --------
From: Alex Balashov <abalas...@evaristesys.com>
Date: 2/9/2016 4:32 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: voiceops@voiceops.org
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Instant Porting
This does raise, in light of the OP, the question of what economic or
political incentive wireless carriers have to cooperate in relatively
seamless porting to/from each other.
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