That's why I hired your firm ML!!! You know how to deal with these issues and get it done.
Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 10, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Mary Lou Carey <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I couldn't pull up the WPR, but obviously their WPR is nothing like an LSR, > which is all written in code and requires a bunch of fields that verify way > more than just the TN/PIN/Address/ZIP accuracy. > > My guess is that it doesn't require a lot of training to teach someone how to > fill out a WPRs because they're in English and to the point. Unlike LSRs that > you need an LSOG guide to understand what it's asking for, hours of training > to know which fields to populate, and the patience of a saint to fight your > way through the process! Sounds like WPRs is the form that all carriers > should use to simplify the process, but then iconectiv would be out of > business and it would make it way easier for carriers to port numbers away > from the ILECs so I don't see that happening without a fight. I guess I > should be thankful because it gives people like me a job, but the whole > ASR/LSR process just seems stupid to me - like reading the bible in Latin to > a group of people who only speak English! > > Mary Lou Carey > BackUP Telecom Consulting > 615-791-9969 > >> On February 10, 2016 at 12:00 PM Paul Timmins <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> My understanding is that the winning carrier submits the subscription, >> issues an electronic WPR >> (https://www.syniverse.com/files/Single_Line_WPR.pdf) - similar to an LSR. >> The losing carrier verifies the WPR's accuracy (TN/PIN/Address/Zip) and >> issues a confirmation and concurrence, and then the winning carrier >> electronically activates in SOA. >> >> Given this is 100% electronic (and all the majors use Syniverse for their >> SOA) it's immediate. Wireless carriers don't really have to worry about >> things like "do they have complex services like DSL, FTTH with bundle >> packaging, etc". They just drop the customer's subscriber information out of >> the switch and send a final bill. >> >> -Paul >> >>> On 02/10/2016 11:50 AM, Mary Lou Carey wrote: >>> I really wonder if the big wireless carriers follow the same process that >>> wireline carriers do because the typical wireline process takes more than 5 >>> minutes to complete. The whole process is: >>> >>> 1. Issue an LSR order to the losing carrier requesting the port. >>> 2. When you get confirmation, submit the port request in NPAC (or a SOA >>> system connected to NPAC) >>> 3. Losing carrier confirms the port >>> 4. Winning carrier accepts the port >>> >>> The greatest portion of time is spent on getting the losing carrier to >>> accept the LSR and give confirmation, so I'm thinking these wireless >>> carriers must have agreements set up between them that allows them to >>> bypass the LSR process and just complete the NPAC work! >>> >>> Mary Lou Carey >>> BackUP Telecom Consulting >>> 615-791-9969 >>> >>>> On February 10, 2016 at 9:57 AM Nick Olsen <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Exactly this. >>>> >>>> I actually ported my personal cell number to Verizon from ATT yesterday. >>>> >>>> Gave the rep my ATT account number, He 30 seconds later asked me for the >>>> PIN I set on my ATT account. I provided and my number was working before I >>>> hit the door on the way out. Total port time was <5 Min. >>>> >>>> I questioned the Rep if this was always the case and he said only if >>>> porting from Sprint/ATT/T-Mobile. And that basically any other carrier >>>> (Not including MVNO's of the above) took 3-5 Business days. Which is about >>>> in-line with my current wireline porting. >>>> >>>> I figure they all exchange so many numbers a day it was in all of their >>>> best interest to work together. >>>> >>>> Not to mention, By automating the process. They don't have to keep an >>>> entire call center worth of LNP personnel to handle their volume. >>>> >>>> Nick Olsen >>>> Network Operations >>>> (855) FLSPEED x106 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: "Alexander Lopez" <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 6:00 PM >>>> To: "Alex Balashov" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Instant Porting >>>> >>>> I think the incentive is to cooperate because it is a relatively small >>>> group of wireless carriers compared to wireline. >>>> >>>> The main reason being that they don't want their ports held up, so they >>>> work well with others. >>>> >>>> Also since there is a small group they could automate the back office >>>> processes between them and submit the request and aknowledgment quickly >>>> and without human interaction. >>>> >>>> >>>> -------- Original message -------- >>>> From: Alex Balashov <[email protected]> >>>> Date: 2/9/2016 4:32 PM (GMT-05:00) >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Instant Porting >>>> >>>> This does raise, in light of the OP, the question of what economic or >>>> political incentive wireless carriers have to cooperate in relatively >>>> seamless porting to/from each other. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC >>>> 303 Perimeter Center North, Suite 300 >>>> Atlanta, GA 30346 >>>> United States >>>> >>>> Tel: +1-800-250-5920 (toll-free) / +1-678-954-0671 (direct) >>>> Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.csrpswitch.com/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> VoiceOps mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> VoiceOps mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops >>> >>> >>> Mary Lou Carey >>> BackUP Telecom Consulting >>> [email protected] >>> Office: 615-791-9969 >>> Cell: 615-796-1111 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> VoiceOps mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops > > >> _______________________________________________ >> VoiceOps mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops > > > Mary Lou Carey > BackUP Telecom Consulting > [email protected] > Office: 615-791-9969 > Cell: 615-796-1111 > _______________________________________________ > VoiceOps mailing list > [email protected] > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
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