How about a Vatican II for LNP processes, eh?
On Wed, 02/10/2016 12:20 PM, Mary Lou Carey <mary...@backuptelecom.com> wrote:
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I couldn't pull up the WPR, but obviously their WPR is nothing like an LSR,
which is all written in code and requires a bunch of fields that verify way
more than just the TN/PIN/Address/ZIP accuracy.
My guess is that it doesn't require a lot of training to teach someone how to
fill out a WPRs because they're in English and to the point. Unlike LSRs that
you need an LSOG guide to understand what it's asking for, hours of training to
know which fields to populate, and the patience of a saint to fight your way
through the process! Sounds like WPRs is the form that all carriers should use
to simplify the process, but then iconectiv would be out of business and it
would make it way easier for carriers to port numbers away from the ILECs so I
don't see that happening without a fight. I guess I should be thankful because
it gives people like me a job, but the whole ASR/LSR process just seems stupid
to me - like reading the bible in Latin to a group of people who only speak
English!
Mary Lou Carey
BackUP Telecom Consulting
615-791-9969
> On February 10, 2016 at 12:00 PM Paul Timmins <p...@timmins.net> wrote:
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My understanding is that the winning carrier submits the subscription, issues
an electronic WPR (https://www.syniverse.com/files/Single_Line_WPR.pdf) -
similar to an LSR. The losing carrier verifies the WPR's accuracy
(TN/PIN/Address/Zip) and issues a confirmation and concurrence, and then the
winning carrier electronically activates in SOA.
>
> Given this is 100% electronic (and all the majors use Syniverse for their
> SOA) it's immediate. Wireless carriers don't really have to worry about
> things like "do they have complex services like DSL, FTTH with bundle
> packaging, etc". They just drop the customer's subscriber information out of
> the switch and send a final bill.
>
> -Paul
>
> On 02/10/2016 11:50 AM, Mary Lou Carey wrote:
>
I really wonder if the big wireless carriers follow the same process that
wireline carriers do because the typical wireline process takes more than 5
minutes to complete. The whole process is:
1. Issue an LSR order to the losing carrier requesting the port.
2. When you get confirmation, submit the port request in NPAC (or a SOA system
connected to NPAC)
3. Losing carrier confirms the port
4. Winning carrier accepts the port
The greatest portion of time is spent on getting the losing carrier to accept
the LSR and give confirmation, so I'm thinking these wireless carriers must
have agreements set up between them that allows them to bypass the LSR process
and just complete the NPAC work!
Mary Lou Carey
BackUP Telecom Consulting
615-791-9969
> On February 10, 2016 at 9:57 AM Nick Olsen <n...@flhsi.com> wrote:
>
>
Exactly this.
I actually ported my personal cell number to Verizon from ATT yesterday.
Gave the rep my ATT account number, He 30 seconds later asked me for the PIN I
set on my ATT account. I provided and my number was working before I hit the
door on the way out. Total port time was <5 Min.
I questioned the Rep if this was always the case and he said only if porting
from Sprint/ATT/T-Mobile. And that basically any other carrier (Not including
MVNO's of the above) took 3-5 Business days. Which is about in-line with my
current wireline porting.
I figure they all exchange so many numbers a day it was in all of their best
interest to work together.
Not to mention, By automating the process. They don't have to keep an entire
call center worth of LNP personnel to handle their volume.
> Nick Olsen
> Network Operations
(855) FLSPEED x106
>
>
From: "Alexander Lopez" <alex.lo...@opsys.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 6:00 PM
> To: "Alex Balashov" <abalas...@evaristesys.com>, "voiceops@voiceops.org"
> <voiceops@voiceops.org>
> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Instant Porting
I think the incentive is to cooperate because it is a relatively small group of
wireless carriers compared to wireline.
The main reason being that they don't want their ports held up, so they work
well with others.
Also since there is a small group they could automate the back office processes
between them and submit the request and aknowledgment quickly and without human
interaction.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Alex Balashov <abalas...@evaristesys.com>
> Date: 2/9/2016 4:32 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: voiceops@voiceops.org
> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Instant Porting
>
This does raise, in light of the OP, the question of what economic or
> political incentive wireless carriers have to cooperate in relatively
> seamless porting to/from each other.
>
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