If it requires a bunch of configuration, I agree it is just V. But if
there's an orchestration layer that informs all other systems of its
presence, including management and licensing, without having to configure
all that, then it is NFV. Now, whether the aforementioned vendors are
actually doing this, that can be debated (and I'd be curious to hear
people's options on it). They may just be doing V with a long-term vision
of NFV, I don't know.

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 7:52 AM, Alex Balashov <[email protected]>
wrote:

> No. That's not NFV. That's just... V.
>
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> *From: *Pete Eisengrein
> *Sent: *Thursday, April 7, 2016 07:26
> *Cc: *[email protected]
> *Subject: *Re: [VoiceOps] Virtualized SBC
>
> > my point was that they, of all
>
> > things, are a poor standard
>
> > bearer for the NFV marketing-
>
> > gasm.
>
>
>
> With centralized licensing and the ability to scale resources when and
> where you need them, I would argue they are the perfect device for the NFV
> marketing-gasm (LOL).
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 11:08 PM, Alex Balashov <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On 04/06/2016 10:54 PM, Ryan Delgrosso wrote:
>>
>> an SBC ... is a demarcation and control point between network
>>> segments where you can inject interworking and business logic.
>>>
>>
>> Absolutely, at >= Layer 5.
>>
>> If it's news to anyone here that you can virtualise applications, they've
>> got some catching up to do.
>>
>> Anyway, my argument wasn't that SBCs serve no valid purposes. You've done
>> a good job of outlining them. Instead, my point was that they, of all
>> things, are a poor standard bearer for the NFV marketing-gasm.
>>
>> -- Alex
>>
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