If you just want to route traffic to the PSTN network and you don't want to deal with getting SS7 links, there are several large carriers that will provide a host switch product. It's a cheaper way to go initially for those who don't deliver tons of traffic to the PSTN. Right now it is only available in Verizon territories as far as I know, but as soon as the process for the new Interconnected VOIP carriers is established, you should be able to do it in any major ILEC/RBOC area. Just a thought for those who don't want to put all the money into becoming a full-fledged facilities-based CLEC. Mary Lou Carey BackUP Telecom Consulting [email protected] Office: 615-791-9969 Cell: 615-796-1111
> On April 21, 2016 at 5:35 PM Kidd Filby <[email protected]> wrote: > > I purposely didn't even start down that road. But, Yes, they most certainly > could, and for the most part would be easier. All of the same info rides the > SigTran deployment as an SS7 A/E/F-Link, plus possibly more.... depending on > what type of messaging you're talking about. However, it also lacks voice > content, like the SS7 network. > > Kidd > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Jared Geiger <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: > > > I haven't used SS7 in the voice world, only touched briefly on the > > > messaging side of it. Would hackers be able to do the same similar > > > attack via SIGTRAN? I would think it would be easier to get access to a > > > poorly managed SIGTRAN device which would then give you SS7 access. > > > > Or even an Asterisk box running SS7 trunks. > > > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Dan York <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > Joseph, > > > > > > I noticed that in Gmail (and perhaps other email systems), the longer > > > reply I wrote for Kidd was hidden because it appeared after his text. > > > Here's what I wrote... > > > > > > what's fascinating is the recent rise in end-to-end (e2e) encryption > > > among IP-based communications platforms that include voice. > > > > > > WhatsApp, for instance, just completed the rollout of e2e encryption > > > on April 5, and not just for messaging, but also for voice and video calls > > > as well as file transfers ( > > > https://blog.whatsapp.com/10000618/end-to-end-encryption ). Just > > > yesterday the team behind Viber announced that they will soon have e2e > > > encryption for all clients. The app Wire ( http://wire.com ) also does > > > e2e encryption for voice, video and group chats. > > > > > > In a US Congress hearing this week, a Congressman asked a Dept of > > > Homeland Security representative if e2e encryption available in apps would > > > have prevented this interception that happened via SS7. The DHS answer was > > > that it would mitigate the interception of the content, although the > > > location meta-data would still be available. (You can view the exchange > > > via the link in this tweet: > > > https://twitter.com/csoghoian/status/722854012567969794 ) > > > > > > The end result is that we're definitely moving to a space where the > > > communication over IP-based solutions will wind up being far more secure > > > than what we had before. > > > > > > Interesting times, > > > Dan > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Joseph Jackson > > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I don’t know many places that encrypt their voice traffic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: VoiceOps [mailto:[email protected] > > > > <mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of Dan York > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 2:45 PM > > > > To: Kidd Filby > > > > Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SS7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is generally true if the calls are *unencrypted* on VoIP... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Kidd Filby <[email protected] > > > > <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also folks, don't forget, the same outcome of recording someone's > > > > call is MUCH easier to accomplish once it is VoIP. IMHO, of course. > > > > ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... BUT... what's fascinating is the recent rise in end-to-end > > > > (e2e) encryption among IP-based communications platforms that include > > > > voice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WhatsApp, for instance, just completed the rollout of e2e > > > > encryption on April 5, and not just for messaging, but also for voice > > > > and video calls as well as file transfers ( > > > > https://blog.whatsapp.com/10000618/end-to-end-encryption ). Just > > > > yesterday the team behind Viber announced that they will soon have e2e > > > > encryption for all clients. The app Wire ( http://wire.com ) also does > > > > e2e encryption for voice, video and group chats. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a US Congress hearing this week, a Congressman asked a Dept of > > > > Homeland Security representative if e2e encryption available in apps > > > > would have prevented this interception that happened via SS7. The DHS > > > > answer was that it would mitigate the interception of the content, > > > > although the location meta-data would still be available. (You can view > > > > the exchange via the link in this tweet: > > > > https://twitter.com/csoghoian/status/722854012567969794 ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The end result is that we're definitely moving to a space where > > > > the communication over IP-based solutions will wind up being far more > > > > secure than what we had before. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting times, > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan York > > > > > > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > +1-802-735-1624 Skype:danyork > > > > > > > > My writing -> http://www.danyork.me/ > > > > > > > > http://www.danyork.com/ <http://www.danyork.com/> > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/danyork <http://twitter.com/danyork> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Dan York > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> +1-802-735-1624 > > > Skype:danyork > > > My writing -> http://www.danyork.me/ > > > http://www.danyork.com/ > > > http://<http://twitter.com/danyork> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > VoiceOps mailing list > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > VoiceOps mailing list > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops > > > > > > -- > Kidd Filby > 661.557.5640 (C) > http://www.linkedin.com/in/kiddfilby > _______________________________________________ > VoiceOps mailing list > [email protected] > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops >
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