John’s Freenum project was used by several universities on Internet2 to make their phone systems available over IP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxqMnG73ZFw Michael Graves mgra...@mstvp.com<mailto:mgra...@mstvp.com> o: (713) 861-4005 c: (713) 201-1262 sip:mgra...@mjg.onsip.com From: chris <tknch...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 9:36 AM To: Michael Graves <mgra...@mstvp.com> Cc: Mike Hammett <voice...@ics-il.net>; Pinchas Neiman <neimanpinc...@gmail.com>; VoiceOps <voiceops@voiceops.org> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Voice Peering +1 enum was great stuff Here in NYC early 2000s we had Stealth doing the VPF (voice peering fabric) https://www.channelfutures.com/telephony-uc-collaboration/xo-joins-stealths-vpf Chris On Tue, Oct 24, 2023, 10:32 AM Michael Graves via VoiceOps <voiceops@voiceops.org<mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org>> wrote: Every time this comes up I am reminded of ENUM, ITAD, Freenum.org and John Todd, long ago once of the brilliant people at Digium. More recently at Quad9. Is Carrier ENUM still a thing? Michael Graves mgra...@mstvp.com<mailto:mgra...@mstvp.com> o: (713) 861-4005 c: (713) 201-1262 sip:mgra...@mjg.onsip.com From: VoiceOps <voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org<mailto:voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org>> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via VoiceOps Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 9:29 AM To: Pinchas Neiman <neimanpinc...@gmail.com<mailto:neimanpinc...@gmail.com>> Cc: VoiceOps <voiceops@voiceops.org<mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org>> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Voice Peering https://wirevolution.com/step-8-register-your-phone-number-at-e164org/ Most of the links have died, so that idea has likely also sunset. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com ________________________________ From: "Pinchas Neiman via VoiceOps" <voiceops@voiceops.org<mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org>> To: "Alex Balashov" <abalas...@evaristesys.com<mailto:abalas...@evaristesys.com>> Cc: "VoiceOps" <voiceops@voiceops.org<mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org>> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 9:05:26 AM Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Voice Peering I am also quitely new in the industry, wondered a while about this possibility, and never realized that Neutral Tandem/Inteliquent are exactly this. I wonder about a hybrid idea, instead of using a global bridge, we would use direct end peer to end peer SIP, the list of DID->IP translation will be maintained on a public website, any DID could be added to that website by requesting a call to that DID@IP using the website, there may be a nominal listing fee, in order to maintain the website. Once in a while an automated script could download the config from the website and update local routing rules. Were this idea or alike ever implemented? legal issues? On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 9:25 AM Alex Balashov via VoiceOps <voiceops@voiceops.org<mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org>> wrote: I think the realistic responses are going to be some combination of: 1) "Congratulations, you just invented Neutral Tandem/Inteliquent/whatever they are this week" 2) "The SIP peering exchange has been proclaimed every year since the early 2000s" 3) "This is quietly happening for years now anyway, just not in the way you've got in mind." -- Alex > On 24 Oct 2023, at 08:49, Mike Hammett via VoiceOps > <voiceops@voiceops.org<mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org>> wrote: > > This was in another thread, but I broke it out into it's own conversation. > Someone had asked: > > --- > Hi, > > I am joining this thread late, but, would anyone out there be interested in > exchanging traffic with other carriers directly over SIP? > > The service would just look like a carrier, except it would know how to reach > all other participants directly with SIP, bypassing TDM land, and enabling > rich media as a fringe benefit, as media would be direct between endpoints. > > I have a proof of concept and am wondering who out there might be willing to > do some testing. > > Email me directly if interested, to talk about your network and how something > like this might fit in. > > Cheers, > > Jawaid > --- > > > https://www.voip-info.org/the-voice-peering-fabric/ > I can't find anything on this in 15 years, so I'm guessing it didn't work out > for one reason or another. Can anyone impart some history there? > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > Midwest Internet Exchange > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > VoiceOps mailing list > VoiceOps@voiceops.org<mailto:VoiceOps@voiceops.org> > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops -- Alex Balashov Principal Consultant Evariste Systems LLC Web: https://evaristesys.com Tel: +1-706-510-6800 _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps@voiceops.org<mailto:VoiceOps@voiceops.org> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops -- Pinchas S. 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