> On Oct 24, 2023, at 9:13 PM, Peter Beckman via VoiceOps > <voiceops@voiceops.org> wrote: > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Crocker. Do not click links > or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is > safe. > > > The challenge is how do you authenticate the end "carrier" or service > provider? >
STIR/SHAKEN > Sure, anyone who leases numbers directly from NANPA can look up the carrier > of record and exchange traffic directly, but any business who also leases > numbers INDIRECTLY gets cut out and still needs to pay their upstream > carrier(s) to place/receive calls, either by channels or per minute, even > if their upstream is directly peered and not transiting the PSTN at all. > > If this would be for the end user, then NANPA would have to delegate to the > leasee, the leasee delegate to the reseller, the reseller to the end user, > then the end user could publish their VoIP contact info, and anyone could > call directly via VoIP, cutting out all of the middle peers. > > But, as another person said, this is ripe for abuse, and with no motivation > by NANPA or the larger carriers to make calls less expensive for the > reseller or end user, I see this going nowhere. Until there is some value > in NANPA (plus all the other country telephony organizations) and the > direct carriers leasing numbers to do so. > > Beckman > >> On Tue, 24 Oct 2023, Ross Tajvar via VoiceOps wrote: >> >> I can think of a few ways that could be adapted into a platform more like >> an Internet exchange, but as others have said, it just doesn't seem worth >> it. >> >> On Tue, Oct 24, 2023, 5:31 PM Jawaid Bazyar via VoiceOps < >> voiceops@voiceops.org> wrote: >> >>> I think schemes like DUNDI (and some of the others mentioned here) suffer >>> from a trust issue – what’s to prevent operator X from poisoning the >>> protocol with bogus “stolen” numbers? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 5:25 PM Jared Smith via VoiceOps < >>> voiceops@voiceops.org> wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 8:49 AM Mike Hammett via VoiceOps < >>>> voiceops@voiceops.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> This was in another thread, but I broke it out into it's own >>>>> conversation. Someone had asked: >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> I am joining this thread late, but, would anyone out there be interested >>>>> in exchanging traffic with other carriers directly over SIP? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Just another point of VoIP history trivia at this point... but in >>>> addition to things like ENUM and ITAD, Mark Spencer of Asterisk fame also >>>> invented Dundi, which was an encrypted peer-to-peer protocol for route >>>> advertisement and discovery. As far as I know, very few people besides me >>>> ever put it in production, but it worked really well at the time. (Of >>>> course, it's been about 17 or 18 years now since I used it in production.) >>>> >>>> -Jared >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> VoiceOps mailing list >>>> VoiceOps@voiceops.org >>>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> VoiceOps mailing list >>> VoiceOps@voiceops.org >>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops >>> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Peter Beckman Internet Guy > beck...@angryox.com https://www.angryox.com/ > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > VoiceOps mailing list > VoiceOps@voiceops.org > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops > _______________________________________________ > VoiceOps mailing list > VoiceOps@voiceops.org > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps@voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
