Hi Philipp,

you definitely have to clean the fan filter of your unit.. standing free on a table, and with a clean filter, the internal temperature rise is 12..13°C at most.

Defining a metrology grade 3458A would explicitly require to define and control the environmental conditions in the specification, like reduced  temperature range, specifying the ventilation requirements, like no use in a rack, by using a different filter, and also by regularly checking the internal temperature by firmware.

The 3458A is designed and specified as a system DMM, inside a rack, in a hot manufacturing environment, like in a electronics manufacturing line, but never was intended and built as a metrology DMM, as hp and KS still try to advertise.

Your argument, that a sample distribution is root cause of these wide specification limits, does not convince me:

The annual and temperature drift (with ACAL) is mainly determined by the drift of the two internal references, due to the ACAL technique, the rest of the circuit does contribute only marginally, but on the w/o ACAL specifications .

Therefore, the 8508/88A simply beat the 3458A, because they use an LTFLU running at 45..55°C only, instead of 95°C, and due to the heavy usage of stable Vishay BMF resistors, which also contribute to the superior short- and midterm stability of these instruments.

So only the sample distribution and yield of the LTZ and 40k resistor affect the annual drift specification limits for the 3458A.

Concerning the LTZ reference, that is already covered by their monitoring / selection process, where they have for sure have yield problems already.

If they would simply reduce the temperature for metrology purposes, like in practice done on the FLUKE DMMs, they would directly get near 100% yield for 2..3ppm/year (@65°C),  due to the ACAL DCV feature..

The 8508/88 on the other hand have to account for the drift of other components, to achieve e.g. these 4ppm/year, although the LTFLU very probably performs more like 1..2ppm/year (inside the 732B, @ 47°C, for example).

I think the 3458A would at least be on par with the FLUKE DMMs if KS would simply chose the same metrology grade resistors and oven temperature as DATRON/FLUKE had done...

Frank


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