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http://www.rexresearch.com/grebenn/grebenn.htm

On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 6:37 PM Frogfall <frogf...@nucleon.co.uk> wrote:

> Have a look at this report:
>
> NASA Breakthrough Propulsion Physics Program
> https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19980201240
> Published 1998
>
> This stuff was all quite open at the time.
>
> In the UK, British Aerospace was also funding antigravity studies, in the
> shape of "Project Greenglow" - which was mainly Dr Ron Evans, who was based
> at their Warton aircraft plant, in Lancashire.  At around that time I went
> along to a talk Ron gave, organised by the Royal Aeronautical Society, at
> Warton.  He described various aspects of his own project, as well as the
> Evgeny Podkletnov work, and the NASA program.
>
> This was all activity that you could imagine would be described as "top
> secret", if it cropped up in some fiction novel. However, the researchers
> seemed to be approaching it as a totally non-classified and open area of
> study.  For Ron Evans, it was just the continuation of a hobby interest,
> prior to retirement.  And, as far as I can remember, the actual budgets
> were tiny.
>
>

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