Harry Veeder wrote: > Paul wrote: > >> Harry Veeder wrote: >>> Paul, >>> >>> >>> I think what you are alluding to is more correctly >> called "power" >>> rather than "energy". Indeed, "power" can be >> defined without the >>> concept of "energy". >> >> Hi Harry, >> >> The discussion was regarding PE. So I was referring >> to energy. >> > > > I know. Let be more frank. > If PE irrelevant to physics then so is the concept of _energy_.
That's not the point. I do not view fields as PE. I am pointing there are no hidden source of PE, that such PE is an illusion for the aid of mathematic due to a flawed theory. It's not math's fault, it's the theories fault. Consider four separated magnets (M1, M2, M3, M4) at random distances. Present physics does not know where the energy comes from so they simply say there is X1 PE between M1 & M2, X2 PE between M1 & M3, X3 PE between M1 & M4, X4 PE between M2 & M3, X5 PE between M2 & M4, X6 PE between M3 & M4. Such a theory is fine if that's all you have, but I've simplified it and done away with PE. For example, many centuries ago people did not understand where the energy contained in compressed air came from. They could have easily attributed it to a separate hidden energy storage compartment created and handled by nature, called PE. We now know that's a silly idea because we understand exactly where the energy is stored in compressed air. Present physics just calls it PE. There is no PE. What if you create two iron atoms, each 1 micron apart. How much PE is there. How much PE between two iron atoms created at the ends of our universe. How much PE between two iron atoms created in different universes. Nature does not need to know such silly things, because energy always exists, there's no hidden undetectable backdoor of energy. Energy is simply moved from one source to another. ... I think if you go back and read my posts you'll get the gist of the theory. > However, as I tried to explain, the concept of _power_ > is still relevant. Yes, but we don't need to mention both power and energy, as energy incorporates power over time. Regards, Paul Lowrance ____________________________________________________________________________________ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail
