----- Original Message ----- From: "Horace Heffner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Miklos Borbas Thruster??
> > On Jun 2, 2007, at 8:43 AM, Michel Jullian wrote: > >>> >>> The stator wire tips are oriented radially. Their ion wind is >>> oriented radially. The field of the balls deflects that radial wind >>> towards themselves. That deflection is clockwise as viewed from the >>> top, for the device in the first photos of the web site. >>>> >> >>> It should deflect the radial flow from the axis stator >>> wires tangentially toward the front of the balls. I'm thinking here >>> in terms of the first device, which had what I call the "stator >>> wires", or corona wires, arrayed radially around the shaft at the >>> same level as the balls. The ion flow from those wires, even in the >>> complete absence of the rotor, should be radial. >> >> Without the rotor, leaving just its supporting and HV connecting >> spindle as the HV electrode (eg with a conductive ball on it so it >> doesn't emit), the ion wind from a stator emitter will form a loop >> in a radial plane, I guess that's what you mean by radial wind? > > Yes the above is correct in that I think when the balls are missing > there is a circular air flow, a couple of counter-flowing doughnuts > of air flow tangent in the plane of the balls, i.e. the plane of the > stator wire tips of the first tested gadget on the web site. Not sure what you mean, I meant that in the absence of the rotor each stator wire tip will create an ion wind loop in a _vertical_ radial plane (referring to the first device photographed on the web site too). > However, I meant looking at it in the plane orthogonal to the spindle horizontal then... > at the level of the balls i.e. about at the same level as the stator emitters... > the ion flow is outward radially when no > balls are present. Well no, it will loop back to the spindle of course, to close the current loop, therefore creating a vertical wind loop as I said, or so I believe. The stator emitters are at ground potential, aren't they? Michel > When the balls are present they deflect this ion > flow tangentially, giving a vortex flow in that plane - at least > that's my contention. > > >> >> Kyle kindly proposed to do some more tests, a smoke test with the >> rotor blocked and another one without the rotor (and its spindle >> bluntes) would be quite instructive! > > Should be interesting. I'm off for while to do mundane things ... > > Regards, > > Horace Heffner >

