----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Horace Heffner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Miklos Borbas Thruster??


> 
> On Jun 2, 2007, at 8:43 AM, Michel Jullian wrote:
> 
>>>
>>> The stator wire tips are oriented radially.  Their ion wind is
>>> oriented radially.  The field of the balls deflects that radial wind
>>> towards themselves.  That deflection is clockwise as viewed from the
>>> top, for the device in the first photos of the web site.
>>>>
>>
>>> It should deflect the radial flow from the axis stator
>>> wires tangentially toward the front of the balls.  I'm thinking here
>>> in terms of the first device, which had what I call the "stator
>>> wires", or corona wires, arrayed radially around the shaft at the
>>> same level as the balls.  The ion flow from those wires, even in the
>>> complete absence of the rotor, should be radial.
>>
>> Without the rotor, leaving just its supporting and HV connecting  
>> spindle as the HV electrode (eg with a conductive ball on it so it  
>> doesn't emit), the ion wind from a stator emitter will form a loop  
>> in a radial plane, I guess that's what you mean by radial wind?
> 
> Yes the above is correct in that I think when the balls are missing  
> there is a circular air flow, a couple of counter-flowing doughnuts  
> of air flow tangent in the plane of the balls, i.e. the plane of the  
> stator wire tips of the first tested gadget on the web site.

Not sure what you mean, I meant that in the absence of the rotor each stator 
wire tip will create an ion wind loop in a _vertical_ radial plane (referring 
to the first device photographed on the web site too).

> However, I meant looking at it in the plane orthogonal to the spindle

horizontal then...
 
> at the level of the balls

i.e. about at the same level as the stator emitters...

> the ion flow is outward radially when no  
> balls are present.

Well no, it will loop back to the spindle of course, to close the current loop, 
therefore creating a vertical wind loop as I said, or so I believe. The stator 
emitters are at ground potential, aren't they?

Michel

> When the balls are present they deflect this ion  
> flow tangentially, giving a vortex flow in that plane - at least  
> that's my contention.
> 
> 
>>
>> Kyle kindly proposed to do some more tests, a smoke test with the  
>> rotor blocked and another one without the rotor (and its spindle  
>> bluntes) would be quite instructive!
> 
> Should be interesting.  I'm off for while to do mundane things ...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Horace Heffner
>

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