Horace Heffner wrote:

Even more sad.  Sigh.

I had a few hopes for this one, but it looks really bad. This is just another ion driven gadget. The ball end indeed apparently attracts (and is attracted by) the ions in front of it and creates a wind over and around the ping pong ball. This wind might even be demonstrated with some kind of super light telltale (down?) glued to the surface of the ping pong ball. The "parachutes" used in the experiment web site photos would have better been directly behind the ping pong balls and orthogonal to the wire - so as to direct the wind radially. That still would not stop the rotation, but would slow it somewhat.

I think Borbas was expecting the wind to be coming from behind the balls, like a "rocket exhaust".... he didn't expect it to be coming from in front of them. The wind from the corona wires can be felt, as a cool breeze, and it takes almost no wind at all to move the device a great deal. Also, even if the wind is too slow to easily detect, if a large mass of air is moved, at a slow speed, it can be just as effective as a small jet of (easily detectable) wind at high speed. This seems to be what happens on the outside of the plastic bag. Plus, the bag itself gets charged in spots, and this interacts with everything around it, including more air.

Yes, but that is to be expected. It is only the sustained circular motion that is important.

As long as a rotating field is set up beween the device and surrounding medium, the rotation can continue. The air is just sort of a non-obvious stator.

So true, it is troublesome. Even pure magnetic stuff can be difficult from similar artifacts. Heat or buoyancy is often a culprit. Still, I think it is well worth the look when there is a logical reason. It is especially well worth the look when someone else goes to the trouble and expense! 8^)

Heh, well I figured it would be more productive of me to do some experiments and post them, rather than argue with people over taxing driver's to death and destroying the economy. I suppose they might be mad at me for this though, too: I bet I made some greenhouse gases during my experiments. And a bit of ozone (tropospheric, the bad kind...) and nitrogen oxides to boot. I that regard, the experiment I did is probably just about as dangerous to the environment as having one's lunch money stolen.

...sorry, I couldn't resist. :)

--Kyle

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