On Oct 23, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:

Steven Krivit wrote:

. . . it's rather fascinating to see the intensity of the response to my release of the belief in single-step D+D > 4He as the dominant underlying explanatory process of LENR. Really emotional, hostile responses.

Nobody believes in single step D+D -> 4He. That would trigger neutrons and gamma rays. I know barely enough about theory to fill a postcard, but even I know that!

It is notable that D+D+e -> 4He+e will not necessarily trigger neutrons and readily detectable gammas or betas. However, a viable hydrogen fusion model is far from sufficient to explain CF lattice phenomena. Beyond the He production with small amounts of high energy alphas and neutron production problem, there is the well documented and much more difficult to explain heavy transmutation without signature problem.

AFAIK, it is well known what large signatures that neutrons, even very slow neutrons, produce when they interact with other nuclei.



Here is roughly everything I know about theory:

All experiment I know of that looked for helium-4 found it at roughly the same ratio as plasma fusion. That indicates that 2 deuterons are transformed into 1 helium atom. But surely it must be a multi-step process. I like Chris Tinsley's analogy comparing respiration with combustion. The starting and ending products are the same but the intermediate steps are different. When respiration was first explained, Chris imagined scientists responding: "You are telling us that there is fire inside the body?!? That's ridiculous!" But in a sense it is true. At ICCF-15 Storms presented a paper discussing what I believe is called a multibody reaction, where several deuterons participate in the reaction. It seems to be the consensus that something like this is happening, as far as I make out from theory discussions.

Will this paper be available online soon?





The irony is that the weak-interaction idea could actually bring respect and recognition to the field - and recognition by mainstream science. Or perhaps all of this noise I'm hearing from you, Rothwell and Storms is about envy and jealousy as a result of the recognition of the WL idea.

This is a joke, right?


If neutrons are produced in the lattice in an amount corresponding to He and heat production then they should be readily detectable via neutron activation of materials in or near the cathode. Thermal neutrons are readily detected. See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_activation_analysis

wherein thermal neutrons, i.e. with kinetic energies of less than 0.5 eV, are used. Notice the extreme sensitivity of Al, Au, Ag, Cl, Cu, Ca, K, Pt, Ti, and S to neutron activation, all elements commonly used in CF experiments. It is difficult to imagine that 20 years of experimentation with large amounts of these materials present would fail to result in the detection of the effects of slow neutrons in or near the lattice, especially in transmutation detection experiments in which the cathode is digested. This must be a common thought in response to the WL claims. There is not necessarily any emotional content, and certainly emotion is not necessary, to such a reaction to WL claims.

Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/




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