At 08:22 AM 10/24/2009, Horace Heffner wrote:
If neutrons are produced in the lattice in an amount corresponding to He and heat production then they should be readily detectable via neutron activation of materials in or near the cathode.

One would think. It seems conceivable that there is some mechanism that results in immediate and contained capture of generated neutrons. Seems conceivable to someone like me, that is, who knows not nearly enough to come up with all the reasons either way.

  Thermal neutrons are readily detected.  See:

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_activation_analysis>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_activation_analysis

wherein thermal neutrons, i.e. with kinetic energies of less than 0.5 eV, are used. Notice the extreme sensitivity of Al, Au, Ag, Cl, Cu, Ca, K, Pt, Ti, and S to neutron activation, all elements commonly used in CF experiments. It is difficult to imagine that 20 years of experimentation with large amounts of these materials present would fail to result in the detection of the effects of slow neutrons in or near the lattice, especially in transmutation detection experiments in which the cathode is digested. This must be a common thought in response to the WL claims. There is not necessarily any emotional content, and certainly emotion is not necessary, to such a reaction to WL claims.

I haven't read the material Krivit points to yet, but I'm very interested in the discussion. One of the things I intend to focus on is the detection of neutrons, the Galileo project was designed for alpha detection, and only detected neutrons, if it did, by accident, more or less like what SPAWAR did, when they decided to look at the backs of detector chips where the alpha radiation didn't penetrate, and found triple tracks.

Gold is sensitive to neutron activation, but what will hot alphas due with gold that is less common with silver or palladium, i.e., why is it reported that neutrons are more readily detected (using CR-39, looking for triple tracks) with gold substrate rather than other metals?

I'm suspecting the nuclear behavior of gold under alpha bombardment is responsible for it. Any ideas:

Beryllium is used as a source of neutrons, it emits them under alpha bombardment. So... how can I incorporate beryllium into a simple codep cell, where the alphas can reach it while they are still hot? What if I had a silver cathode, with a layer of beryllium plating, followed, or not, by gold plating? Any effect? What about a small piece of beryllium foil suspended near the cathode? Chemical reactions of beryllium in the electrolyte? What would happen? So much fun, so little time.

If I get an amplified neutron signal from the presence of beryllium, it would be a strong sign of hot alphas. This possibility was suggested to me by a critic of cold fusion, there are a few who actually *think* about the problem. We need more of those.

What effects are predicted by Widom Larsen? Is neutron activation predicted, or is that mechanism interdicted in some way by the theory? Slow neutrons are easy to detect, in fact, because they are so highly active, being able to penetrate nuclei. I'd think that in a palladium lattice at 1:1 loading, there would be more neutron activation of palladium than of deuterium. What would the products be?

Hot neutrons won't be produced by a low-energy process. Hot neutrons are being reported by SPAWAR, estimated energy, on the order of 10 MeV. So some other process is producing them, either some kind of fusion or as a byproduct of some kind of fusion or other energy-yielding nuclear process, and hot alphas, given all the helium produced, that correlates with the excess heat in the right range, seem the most likely source of the energy for hot neutrons, given the very low levels of neutrons found, they would be signs of secondary reactions. I.e., an alpha signature, and sensitive to the environment, i.e., what the alphas can hit before they become thermal and merely ordinary helium.

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