I have suggested that palladium is a red herring. If the phenomena is a surface effect then the outer surface of the palladium or material X will have the greatest number of defects or surface-effect areas and it has been found that roughening the surface will increase the effect. So too, I speculate will loading a bulk sample of palladium to the point that you induce fatigue cracks which will appear first on the surface and propogate inward as the internal pressure within the sample builds up due to the loading with hydrogen. You could get the same effect by first stressing a sample of palladium with proteum to the point that it would have shown the heat effect had it been loaded with deuterium then unloading the proteum and reloading it with deuterium. If the phenomena is a surface effect it should show up almost immediately just as in the case with the codeposited palladium and deuterium. The heat phemonema has show up in so many different material combinations and conditions that there is some other governing parameter other than palladium material. Granted palladium being open to hydrogen would allow it to migrate into the intersticies a little faster but just breaking up the material into a powder could produce the necessary surface defects and porosity needed to allow the heat effect to show up. ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Gluck To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Dominguez ICCF17 abstract
I am looking this paper with very mixed feelinga. Admiration for a great effort, however 5% success rate due to palladiumphilia can be described by two nasty Latin sayings- too: Errare humanum est, persverare diabolicum Parturiunt montes, nascetur ridiculus mus I am very sorry but Pd is not good despite...everything.. Don't make the skeptics happy! Peter On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Akira Shirakawa <[email protected]> wrote: On 2012-08-20 20:46, Jed Rothwell wrote: *Anomalous Results in Fleischmann-Pons Type Electrochemical* [...] This should be the result of what was mentioned in the 2012 DARPA budget review: http://nextbigfuture.com/2012/07/darpa-nanotech-projects-nanoscale.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg67364.html Cheers, S.A. -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
