At 07:48 PM 12/28/2012, James Bowery wrote:
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Axil Axil
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
Heat output can be neglected.
I strongly disagree.
We hear a lot about how the temperature doesn't rise in any degree
approaching what one would expect from the joule input but one must
recall that this is one of the most anomalous claims about the Papp system.
While theoretically this is true, if it is also true that there is
*little* heat from a Papp engine, and if excess energy is shown by a
reasonably careful analysis of the motion of a popper piston, without
considering heat, heat generation would only *add* to the excess energy.
Whether there is any need to look for heat, then, is a subsidiary
question. Is there excess energy, expressed in piston motion?
If there is such energy, then we will want to know quantitative data
about heat, it's part of attempting to understand the process. And if
there is no such energy, putting a lot of work into dotting the i's
and crossing the t's is probably a waste of time.
If there is no excess energy, expressed in motion, then the lack of
heat is *not* an anomaly. Why would we expect heat?
I'm looking at heuristics here. What approaches will most efficiently
resolve claims?
