The Papp reaction will be revealing to those who are interested in the DGT
LENR reaction in that it is similar to the spark discharge that is being
used in the DGT reaction. If it is true that we know nothing about the Papp
reaction, then the same must be said about the function of spark energy
discharge into the hydrogen envelope of the DGT reactor.

Consider the formation of atomic hydrogen and hydrogen atomic crystals
using a spark discharge considered in this thread.

Could a study of the workings inside the Papp cylinder be useful in
understanding the *REAL* mechanism that is occurring in the DGT reactor? I
think this is so.


Cheers:   Axil
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax 
<[email protected]>wrote:

> At 09:55 AM 12/28/2012, Roarty, Francis X wrote:
>
>> Axil,
>>
>
> etc.
>
> This is Vortex, and you guys are certainly free to speculate at the drop
> of a hat or a popper.
>
> However, I'm also free to note that trying to figure out what is going on
> with Russ's popper, when we have just about zero information about anything
> unusual happening, it like trying to see what is in a closed black box in a
> coal mine at midnight. And no light.
>
> What's in there? *Anything* could be in there. Boo!
>
> If Russ really wants to do something useful, he can start measuring the
> work done by that piston. It should be simple to do. Since it is reported
> that the thing doesn't heat up, no calorimetry is necessary, at least not
> yet. One regular characteristic of Papp engines is that they reportedly
> don't generate much, if any, heat. Just, allegedly, work.
>
> Okay, how much work with hou much energy input. A popper is perfect for
> testing this, avoiding all the complications of cycling engines. If there
> is no excess power in a single cycle, why would we even be interested in
> seeing if power can be sustained?
>

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