You may appreciate how difficult is becomes to get good conversation going
in a tiny Texas town ( other than cattle, bailing hay and barbeque) so
forgive my imposition on one of your threads.Picking up on the vortex tube
was a " quick study" and  Jones Beene had no problem reading  the " braille"
of vortex tubes as they describe the working anomolies of tornados even to
the measured temperature of the vortex at higher elevations ( hot end of the
vortex tube). What did surprise me was the comment made about " cavitation".
Interesting that we observed cavitation at the base of the simulated vortex
tests.
Reminds me of seeing a piece of wheat straw supposed " driven" completely
through a wooden light pole after a tornado passed. The wheat straw was "
NOT DAMAGED"  Hmmmm !!!. Explanation.. either.. the velocity was.. no
couldn't be because the straw was undamaged... perhaps the vacuum within the
cone of the  vortex was  sufficent to expand the.. no way!!
OR ????.. a function of time.... Hmmmm ???
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Grimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 2:33 AM
Subject: Re: ...upon the clouds of heaven...


> At 10:28 pm 02-08-04 -0500, you wrote:
> >Grimer.. you are a quick study..
>
>
> Ooo....I've never been called that before.
> A brown study perhaps...or even the quick
> brown fox that jumped over the lazy dog.  ;-)
>
>
> >now look at the tornado as a giant vortex tube.
>
>
> I'm all eyes    8-)
>
>
> >Do you have a "generator"?
>
>
> Err...mmm.....more than likely, I shouldn't wonder.
>
>
> >What if you produced the vortex from the
> >ground up by using a " vortex tube"?
>
>
> Or even one of those giant ice cream cones they
> pulverize chickens with. What are they called?
> Windhex - something like that. Mmm... better
> google it. I see - I forgot the e on the end.
> It's Windhexe.
>
> http://vortexdehydration.com/id37.htm
>
>
> Well, since your ISP seems to be located in Texas
> I'm sure that if you build a Beta-atmosphere over-unity
> generator and thereby solve the problem of diminishing
> oil supplies, you will be a prime candidate for the
> next Texan president of the U.S.of A.  <g>
>
> Joking aside, your drawing attention to the evidence for
> what could well be the natural separation of the vapour
> powers is an important independent piece of evidence for
> the development of this thread. I'm glad one Vortexian's
> on the ball.  :-)
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Cheers
>
> Grimer
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "RC Macaulay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 9:00 PM
> Subject: Re: ...upon the clouds of heaven...
>
>
> > The vortex I am referring to would be a tornado. The formation of this
> > vortex is fascinating. Within the cone of the vortex a condition exists
> for
> > formation of lightning. Many actual movies taken of moving tornados show
> > what first appears to be the vortex cone destroying power lines which
> short
> > and spark. A closer look at the films show a "glow" within the cone and
no
> > power lines close.
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Grimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 12:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: ...upon the clouds of heaven...
> >
> >
> > >
> > > >At 05:13 pm 01-08-04 -0500, I wrote:
> > >
> > >    <snip>
> > >
> > > >It would appear then that the tube is now merely a
> > > >thermodynamic curiosity.
> > >
> > >
> > > I was quite wrong there I'm afraid.    :-(
> > >
> > > Apparently the tube has a wide range of useful industrial
> > > applications. The following is a good explanatory site.
> > >
> > > http://www.exair.com/vortextube/vt_frmain.htm#howitworks
> > >
> > > If you scroll down the page there is a excellent animated
> > > diagram which clearly shows how the tube separates the
> > > two flows.
> > >
> > > Interestingly enough, on the site page dealing with the
> > > history of the vortex tube the firm claim that "Theories
> > > abound regarding the dynamics of the Vortex tube." It would
> > > seem that this is possibly a fertile field for the kind of
> > > investigation to which "garage" explorers would be well
> > > suited.  After all, it was invented "quite by accident"
> > > in the first place.
> > >
> > > Grimer
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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