Chris, it would be helpful if you would turn off the HTML option when posting here. It would reduce your post size by about 2/3. Thanks.
At 10:05 AM 3/6/5, Zell, Chris wrote: > > >________________________________ > >From: Mike Carrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 9:07 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: Correa > > >Chris wrote: > > > > Now we're getting somewhere! > > No, we are not. You are repeating the same mistake that Jeff >made, changing what the Correas did before you ever see the effect. The >PAGD discharge is a wideband event. Transformers are ***not*** simple >devices in a wideband case, they have stray inductance which will >present a complex impedance to the discharge. You are ignoring what I >said about the discharge continuing with no rise in the cell voltage. >You say you have studied the Correa ptents, but you have not understood >the implications of what is in them. Transformers also block DC. > > I don't want to be harsh here, but you have to do your homework >**very thoroughly**. > > Mike Carrell > > Sadly, I hope you haven't been infected with the Correas' >mindset. I have done a lot of 'homework' on this subject - including >sending the > Correas an e-mail warning them that much of their patents effect >may be covered by old patents by Philo Farnsworth in the '30's and '40's > in which he obtained "overunity" ( perhaps in a different >context) from implinging electrons on vacuum housed aluminum plates. ( >multipactor tubes) > > As things stand, the Correas do not have anything practical >to offer the public. For the sake of humanity, let's hope that changes. > It is entirely reasonable to question their work - respectfully >- so as to try to create something practical out of it. At least one of >their > patents clearly presents a transformer on the output in the >printed schematic, so they've experimented with it. > > We should respect and try to faithfully duplicate their >technical work. That said , we should utterly avoid the spirit of >contentiousness, > contempt and seething hatred that creates the defeat of noble >enterprise. It is not enough to have a Ph.D. If we follow this ugly >course, > we are making ourselves the equals of darkened hearts and minds >who sneer at cold fusion and other developments, regardless of evidence. > > > > > Perhaps a huge part of this mystery concerns >the critical design of the output. Too small a capacitor and the pulse >action will be inhibited > because the capacitor will be filled. Too >fast or brief a pulse and the battery may reject most of it as heat >rather than accept it as a charge. > > It might be possible to use some sort of audio >transformer of high quality to transform the pulses down. I would think >the low impedance > of a small battery pack would be reflected >back into the tube favorably. Perhaps one of the new low voltage >ultracaps would work > in such a circuit. > > > > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> ><HTML><HEAD> ><META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> ><META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1491" name=GENERATOR> ><STYLE></STYLE> ></HEAD> ><BODY bgColor=#ffffff> ><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=578304515-06032005><FONT face=Arial >color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV><BR> ><DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left> ><HR tabIndex=-1> ><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Mike Carrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ><BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 05, 2005 9:07 AM<BR><B>To:</B> >[email protected]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Correa<BR></FONT><BR></DIV> ><DIV></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Chris wrote: </FONT></DIV> ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr >style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN > >class=359301422-04032005> &n >bsp; > Now we're getting somewhere!</SPAN></FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN > class=359301422-04032005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#ff0000 size=2><SPAN >class=359301422-04032005>No, > we are not. You are repeating the same mistake that Jeff made, changing what > the Correas did before you ever see the effect. The PAGD discharge is a > wideband event. Transformers are ***not*** simple devices in a wideband >case, > they have stray inductance which will present a complex impedance to the > discharge. You are ignoring what I said about the discharge continuing >with no > rise in the cell voltage. You say you have studied the Correa ptents, >but you > have not understood the implications of what is in them. Transformers also > block DC. </SPAN></FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#ff0000 size=2><SPAN > class=359301422-04032005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#ff0000 size=2><SPAN class=359301422-04032005>I > don't want to be harsh here, but you have to do your homework **very > thoroughly**. </SPAN></FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#ff0000 size=2><SPAN > class=359301422-04032005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000><SPAN class=359301422-04032005><FONT >face=Arial><FONT > size=2>Mike Carrell<SPAN class=578304515-06032005><FONT > color=#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000><SPAN class=359301422-04032005><FONT >face=Arial><FONT > size=2><SPAN > class=578304515-06032005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000><SPAN class=359301422-04032005><FONT >face=Arial><FONT > size=2><SPAN class=578304515-06032005> Sadly, I hope you > haven't been infected with the Correas' mindset. I have done a lot of > 'homework' on this subject - including sending > the</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000><SPAN class=359301422-04032005><FONT >face=Arial><FONT > size=2><SPAN class=578304515-06032005>Correas an e-mail warning them >that much > of their patents effect may be covered by old patents by Philo Farnsworth in > the '30's and '40's</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000><SPAN class=359301422-04032005><FONT >face=Arial><FONT > size=2><SPAN class=578304515-06032005>in which he obtained "overunity" ( > perhaps in a different context) from implinging electrons on vacuum housed > aluminum plates. ( multipactor > tubes) </SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000><SPAN class=359301422-04032005><FONT >face=Arial><FONT > size=2><SPAN > class=578304515-06032005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000><SPAN class=359301422-04032005><FONT >face=Arial><FONT > size=2><SPAN class=578304515-06032005> As things stand, the > Correas do not have anything practical to offer the public. For >the sake > of humanity, let's hope that >changes.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000><SPAN class=359301422-04032005><FONT >face=Arial><FONT > size=2><SPAN class=578304515-06032005>It is entirely reasonable to question > their work - respectfully - so as to try to create something practical > out of it. At least one of >their</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000><SPAN class=359301422-04032005><FONT >face=Arial><FONT > size=2><SPAN class=578304515-06032005>patents clearly presents a transformer > on the output in the printed schematic, so they've experimented with > it.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000><SPAN class=359301422-04032005><FONT >face=Arial><FONT > size=2><SPAN > class=578304515-06032005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000><SPAN class=359301422-04032005><FONT >face=Arial><FONT > size=2><SPAN class=578304515-06032005> We should respect and try to > faithfully duplicate their technical work. That said , we should >utterly > avoid the spirit of contentiousness,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000><SPAN class=359301422-04032005><FONT >face=Arial><FONT > size=2><SPAN class=578304515-06032005>contempt and seething hatred that > creates the defeat of noble enterprise. It is not enough to have a > Ph.D. If we follow this ugly > course,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000><SPAN class=359301422-04032005><FONT >face=Arial><FONT > size=2><SPAN class=578304515-06032005>we are making ourselves the equals of > darkened hearts and minds who sneer at cold fusion and other developments, > regardless of evidence.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000><SPAN class=359301422-04032005><FONT >face=Arial><FONT > size=2><SPAN > class=578304515-06032005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000><SPAN class=359301422-04032005><FONT >face=Arial><FONT > size=2><SPAN > class=578304515-06032005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000><SPAN class=359301422-04032005><FONT >face=Arial><FONT > size=2><SPAN > class=578304515-06032005> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN > class=359301422-04032005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN > >class=359301422-04032005> &n >bsp; > Perhaps a huge part of this mystery concerns the critical design of the > output. Too small a capacitor and the pulse action will be > inhibited</SPAN></FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN > >class=359301422-04032005> &n >bsp; > because the capacitor will be filled. Too fast or brief a pulse >and the > battery may reject most of it as heat rather than accept it as a > charge.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN > class=359301422-04032005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN > >class=359301422-04032005> &n >bsp; > It might be possible to use some sort of audio transformer of high >quality to > transform the pulses down. I would think the low > impedance</SPAN></FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN > >class=359301422-04032005> &n >bsp; > of a small battery pack would be reflected back into the tube > favorably. Perhaps one of the new low voltage ultracaps would > work</SPAN></FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN > >class=359301422-04032005> &n >bsp; > in such a circuit.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN > class=359301422-04032005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN > >class=359301422-04032005> &n >bsp; > </SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> Regards, Horace Heffner
