> From: "Jones Beene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The problem with ZPE is that the > 'outside' sytsem is "interdimensional," so in effect this does > turns the 2nd Law into little more than semantic mush, even more > so than presently.
Of course, Randell vehemently denies ZPE. > Obedience simulates subordination [and murders creativity] as fear > of the police simulates honesty. Which reminds me, you used a phrase sometime back, I don't remember when, but it went something like "x trumps y". It reminded me of something which I couldn't remember <g>. Now I do: a phrase in Kellerman's "Conspiracy Club" . . . "Expediency trumps virtue." Did you get it from Kellerman? It was an odd synchronicity as I was reading CC at the time. "Reality is whatever refuses to go away when I stop believing in it." -Horselover Fat
