--- Frederick Sparber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mark Goldes' post on the "Power Chip"  
> http://www.powerchips.gi/   


Many of us have followed this "Power Chip" thing for a
long time, as the implicaions are enormous! but sadly
seen no progress. I hope it is not vapor ware. It
would be the only breakthrough which is necesary to
push many marginal alternative energy process
"over-the-top" but... as the cute little grandma sez,
"where's the beef?"

Speaking of vapor ware, Fred, is trying to
double-capitalize on that!
 
> conjures up visions of using the vapor of a heat
> pipe to transfer electrons from a
> conductive evaporator section past an
> electrically-insulated mid-section to 
> an electrically conductive  condensing section, with
> the electrons returning
> to the evaporator through an external load.  

> I don't know why I didn't think of this before.  

I do. Because it probably won't work ;-)

At least not in that simple form. Transfering
electrons is not enough... as there has to be some
kind of voltage differential, or anisotropy, in the
circuit - since the vapor is conductive both ways. The
cold end soon reaches the potential of the hot end, as
heat removal alone provides no lower potential on the
cold end, and then the coloumb charge of the cold end
stops further electron flow....

However (and Fred may have been thinking of this
necessary step all along) providing two sets of
TEC-diodes (or bi-metals) - one on either end (hot and
cold) with the vapor circuit in the middle could
possibly do better than two pairs of thermal-diodes
joined without the vapor, as the heat system and the
electrical system have greater seperation?

I have never understood why "stacking" of TECs offers
no greater advantage over a single diode but all the
experts say that there is no advantage... however when
the electric circuit and the heat circuit have some
forced degree of seperation, as would be the case with
a heat pipe, perhaps things are different and there is
greater efficiency?

If you could just push the heat-pipe up near the
Carnot limit for the available heat-spread, it could
double the output from about 8-10% to 15-20% and then
such obvious things as capturing the enegy from the
auto exhaust manifold, or the gas furnace, would make
a big difference in lowering hydrocarbon use.

Jones


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