Jones, even though the accuracy of the temperature measurement is somewhat 
questionable there are other indications that support the conclusion that 
excess heat is being generated by a nuclear process.

You are forgetting about the fuel element changes that were measured.  This is 
a non trivial situation and the testers have stated that they kept a close 
watch on the fuel during the extraction process.  It is a stretch to suggest 
that Rossi or anyone else falsified the charge.  I suppose that anyone that can 
not accept the fact that LENR involves nuclear conversions must come to that 
conclusion.

Also, the large increase of the device temperature and/or power output with a 
small input power change is significant.  Positive feedback, which is 
associated with internally generated power, causes that behavior.   The 
observation had the testers concerned that they were about to destroy the 
HotCat which is one reason that they did not increase the input further.  All 
of the positive thermal feedback models that I have constructed exhibit that 
characteristic which becomes much more pronounced with increasing levels of 
positive feedback.

So, we have several observations and measurements that support  that some form 
of nuclear process is active in Rossi's device.   Any evidence against this 
conclusion is based upon total speculation and requires some form of deception 
or magical trick.  Skeptics that doubt the accuracy of a test need to address 
why the positive evidence is flawed and so far I have seen nothing that 
explains the large output power delta when the input drive is increased by a 
modest amount.

Merry Christmas to all,

Dave

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jones Beene <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Dec 24, 2014 12:25 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Ryan Hunt comments on the color of the MFMP reactor



From: Terry Blanton 
Ø       This is not a trivial question - when errors are exponentially 
multiplied by a fourth power.

Ø       I'm sure I don't have to remind you that error bars usually extend on 
both sides of the data plot.

Merry Christmas! 

Yes, there is the possibility that the claimed gain could have been 
underestimated by temperature calculations which did not properly account for 
all of the far IR radiation – just as having been overestimated due to photon 
leakage on the high end… by any IR device which was not properly calibrated. 
Calibration is the name of the game. 
For instance, since alumina is a “gray body” radiator - not blackbody – then 
full calibration of the camera should have been made with heated alumina in 
Lugano - at the highest expected temperature, but this was not done under 
direct order. Thus, the data from Lugano is compromised. That is all that can 
be said – the data is worthless, but the temperature could indeed have been 
grossly underestimated as well as grossly overestimated. 4th power will do that.
In short, when everything depends on the accuracy of the low pass filter on the 
camera, then the “extra” flux of high frequency light passing through the 
alumina and being filtered by the camera, could in principle also diminish the 
longer wavelengths, so that temperature is being underestimated ! This is a 
detail that has not been voiced, and no one knows the answer.
However, the overriding point is that calibration of this kind of instrument is 
all-important, and since Levi should have realized this (after all, this is 
supposedly his field of expertise) then we have to ask why he allowed Rossi 
stop the calibration run at 500 C. 
Clearly, Levi and the Swedes were being manipulated. Thus we have a Lugano 
report that resolves nothing. The field of LENR would be better off if this 
report never surfaced, due to shoddy measurements. Although the error could 
have gone either way, the common sense implication from Rossi’s action is that 
he knew from his own past experience - that proper calibration of the camera 
would not help his cause.
Which puts us in this strange predicament. 
If further MFMP testing concludes that the real temperature of the reactor, 
based on a more accurate reading using the thermocouple, is actually higher 
than the camera computation of temperature in the range above 1000C – then two 
radically different conclusions (interpretations) are possible.
One … Rossi actually underestimated the net gain in Lugano. 
Two … which is more provocative, is that there is net gain from SPP formation 
alone ! 
…which happens in a porous alumina reactor, even without the need for added 
fuel (other than the water vapor in air). This gain is due to DCE.
(yes, there are other interpretations besides these, but these two are in stark 
contrast to general expectations now floating around cyberspace)





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