In reply to  Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 16 Jan 2015 23:08:00 -0500:
Hi,
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><[email protected]> wrote:
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>> One would think that it ought to be possible to significantly reduce the
>> weight
>> of the first stage of a rocket by using jet engines iso rocket engines.
>> That way
>> you save the weight of the Oxygen (by far the heaviest component), by using
>> environmental air.
>
>
>Yup. That's called an air-launched rocket. The SpaceShipOne is an example.


Actually what I had in mind was more something with just jet engines iso rocket
engines, not something carried into the air on the back of a jet.
(This should be possible, because the Harrier jump jet is capable of vertical
takeoff, on jet exhaust alone.)
Though maybe air-launched turns out to be more efficient &/or cheaper?

>
>I guess the first air-launched rocket was the X-1, launched from a B-29
>bomber. They also managed to take off from the ground once, but it was
>designed to be air-launched.
>
>A space elevator would have many advantages but with the early models it
>would take a long time to reach the geosynchronous terminal. Days or weeks.
>It might be possible to slowly send a small rocket up a few hundred
>kilometers, well above the atmosphere, drop it, and have it space-launch
>from there to make a quick trip to the terminal, in a few hours. I think
>this would take less fuel than going through the atmosphere. I wouldn't
>want to ride in it!
>
>- Jed
Space elevators should never be built. Far too dangerous (read "Red Mars"?) and
unstable (wind problems).
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

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