Good use of those abandoned properties... Plus land cost would be ideal. But I am not picturing a 'green' landfill. I am thinking more deep missile silo type structures to idealize prime conditions and collection. Apply steam to accelerate the process? Pair it up with geothermal to avoid the energy cost? Worlds largest methanol still?
Like it even more now. -john -----Original Message----- From: Frederick Sparber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: DON'T PANIC! TVA area and other strip-mine sites, John? The repositories could be engineered for plant nutrient recovery also. Fred > [Original Message] > From: John Steck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 12/14/2005 1:58:43 PM > Subject: RE: DON'T PANIC! > > With the price of natural gas not looking to go down any time soon, > might not be a bad business plan to start a company with. Land, > collection, and fermenting time would be your biggest expenses.... But > once you got past the > initial startup delay, keeping it producing would only be a caretaker > activity. > > I like it. -john > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Frederick Sparber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:33 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: DON'T PANIC! > > > A short term effort that I practice, John, is to throw every bit of > biodegradeable material I can into the trash bin headed to landfill. > Do that with all of the agro-produced waste (that normally oxidizes > aerobically) in area repositories and there will be significant > amounts of "Natural Gas" CH4 available in a couple of decades. > > Fred > > > [Original Message] > > From: John Steck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Date: 12/14/2005 9:55:10 AM > > Subject: RE: DON'T PANIC! > > > > There are theories that petroleum is a by-product of chemical > > reactions taking place sub-surface and percolating up through the > > bedrock. It's a theory postulated to explain why tapped out oil > > fields have been > discovered > > to be filling back up. > > > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0387985468/026-0122312-6851 > > 65 > > 5 > > > > If true, peak oil will have to be redefined as the rate of > > consumption > > vs. rate of replenishment. Might not help this civilization, but a > > few > hundred > > thousand years should be enough to refill the tanks for the next one > > to emerge after the next ice age / flood / asteroid cleansing. > > Hopefully > they > > will be prudent enough not to smelt down all the circuit boards in > > the > trash > > heaps for their precious metal content before they are smart enough > > to > > decode our legacy from them. > > > > Wow. Sorry about that. Just bummed myself out.... My cynicism > > valve > seems > > to be stuck in the open position this morning. > > > > -john > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:05 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: DON'T PANIC! > > > > > > http://www.sacbee.com/content/opinion/story/13949592p-14784245c.html > > > > Saudi "proven" reserves are shown at 262.7 billion barrels. In 1989, > > Saudi "proven" reserves were reported at 260 billion barrels. No > > significant fields have been discovered since then. How does one > > explain the current reserve? Kuwait's Burgan Field (the > > second-largest on Earth) has peaked and is in decline. > > > > <more> > > > > Keep your towel handy. > > ___________________________________________________ > > Try the New Netscape Mail Today! > > Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List > > http://mail.netscape.com > > > > >
