I can add that chart.  That is actually the way I plot it for calculating
excess power, but it's less intuitive in a presentation.

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 12:20 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:

> Not exactly.  The slope of the input power will become lower as the
> temperature is increased in the chart that I use.  If this slope is not
> reduced as the temperature rises then there is little positive thermal
> feedback present.  And, if the slope enters into a negative region as
> temperature rises the device will continue to heat up until it either self
> destructs or the careful geometry of the design begins to take more heat
> power away from the system than is added by the core.   The new high
> temperature safe operating region exhibits a positive slope similar to what
> is seen below the negative slope threshold temperature.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Jones Beene <[email protected]>
> To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
> Sent: Mon, Feb 9, 2015 12:55 pm
> Subject: RE: [Vo]:Titanium as hydrogen carrier in Improved experiment
>
>   Isn’t chart D giving you that ?
>
>
>
> *From:* David Roberson
>
> I would like to see the curve of input power versus temperature plotted.
> The input power needs to appear along the Y-axis and the temperature along
> the X-axis.  This type of curve tells very much about how the device will
> behave.   It can demonstrate when the COP will become large and indicate
> the potential for runaway conditions.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Jones Beene <[email protected]>
> To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
> Sent: Mon, Feb 9, 2015 12:21 pm
> Subject: [Vo]:Titanium as hydrogen carrier in Improved experiment
>   Jack Cole has made progress in his continuing effort to reach higher
> COP at lower temperature in a ceramic cell of the type used by Parkhomov
> and Rossi.
>
> http://www.lenr-coldfusion.com/2015/02/09/excess-heating-alternative-hydrogen-source/
>  The results are improved but still only slightly gainful –not far enough
> above the noise level to expect others to drop everything and pay attention, 
> yet
> … but heck, look at it this way – the delta-t gain is improved by about
> 50% over the previous iteration - and at that rate of improvement, it
> will not take long. A goal of COP=1.5 is in range with only a few more
> changes.
>  In fact, Jack held back on the hydrogen carrier (TiH2) due to the MFMP 
> “explosion”
> and therein is an obvious way to look for further improvement.
>  The most notable feature is that gain was seen at very modest P-in which
> is due in part to thermal insulation.
>  Jones
>  PS – there is a paper in the LENR library by Dash et al where the
> authors state that titanium is more active for LENR than palladium.
> Therefore using TiH2 to carry hydrogen, while retaining lithium in a much 
> safer
> form is almost a no-brainer.
>

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