Jones,

When I first began modeling the ECAT several years ago I used exactly the 
concept that you are suggesting.  It did in fact appear to yield a COP of 6 or 
in that vicinity with careful adjustment of the PWM drive waveform.   I used 
the duty cycle that Rossi had revealed within his blog entries before the 
recent shut down of important data.  I even applied the amount of power that he 
spelled out.

That was how it was left to await further proof until the Swiss experiment.   
During that experiment I saw a behavior that did not match the negative 
resistance region requirements from my earlier models.   I could never arrive 
at a COP of 6 without having one of those to boost the output power.  At the 
time I was a bit puzzled by the device and the apparent lack of that important 
condition.  I soon realized that either Rossi intentionally gave them a low 
fuel charge that guaranteed stability for their test or that he had produced a 
new design of the type 2 category.

Had the scientists carefully increased the input drive power is small steps I 
could have easily determined whether or not a type 2 system was now in 
existence.  Unfortunately this was not done so I must conclude with caution 
that a type 1 is what was tested.  In that case the thermal feedback is limited 
so that a negative resistance region is not present at any operating 
temperature.  The COP will then be limited to less than 4 under ideal 
conditions which is lower than most of us would like to see in the long term.

Perhaps Rossi realized that even a COP of 3 would prove to the world that he 
had some magic.  The latest replications are not limited in the same way as 
Rossi did and the extra insulation as well as amount of fuel can be set as 
desired.   This is just what we needed.  It appears that we are now observing 
the negative resistance region of operation and the thermal run away that can 
easily tag along.  I have my fingers crossed that someone will find the magic 
solution that leads to a type 2 system which will be highly desired since the 
COP can be very large and stable in that mode of operation.

This is an exciting time for all of us and what we have been waiting for.  It 
does mean that many devices are going to melt down before the process is tamed. 
 I hope that proper precautions are taken to ensure that no one is injured by 
the multitude of explosions that might well be seen in the near future.  How 
much energy can be released during the worst case melt down event is not 
obvious so there may be substantial risk to the brave guys working within the 
labs.  So far Rossi is still among us so the danger may not be too much greater 
than already witnessed by the MFMP crew.

Dave

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jones Beene <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Feb 10, 2015 1:11 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR



From: David Roberson 

Actually the characteristic curves suggest that the input power acts like a 
bias that stands behind the incremental behavior.  If that bias is quickly 
removed then there should exist a point of operation that is located ahead of 
the dangerous region.  Unless some strong memory exists, I can imagine that the 
process would reverse as we all hope.

Dave,

Given what you say above – what about the possibility of a higher level of 
control simply by use of pulsed power (at very low duty)?
For instance, if we know from prior experiment that 100 watts of DC will 
eventually lead to large gain but at the risk of thermal runaway, and we also 
know that quenching begins almost immediately with removal of power (unless the 
system has already progressed to instability) – then it would seem that low 
duty pulsing with the same net power will provide better control against a 
runaway. (that is the premise but I have not data to back it).
In effect, as an alternative to 100 watts DC, it would be possible to design 
and construct a pulsed power supply that will provide something like 2000 watt 
pulses at 5% duty. The net power in is the same, but 95% of the time there is 
no power. The frequency can be long but the idea is to alternate short sharp 
pulses with long delays.
Is there any reason in your model to suggest that this approach is valid?
Jones




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