In these triac light dimmers, the rise/fall times are very sharp maybe in
the nanoseconds. That means that a lot of instantaneous power is being feed
into the heater wire as the power pulse starts when the leading edge
waveform is used.

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:

> According to Jack, the reaction did not happen in the fuel, but in the
> insolating layer. The fuel composition does not matter. IMHP, what matters
> is the exact nature of the heater current.
>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Robert Ellefson <vortex-h...@e2ke.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Jack,
>>
>>
>>
>> Fantastic!  I’m really stoked to hear of your progress.  I think your
>> powder recipe sounds very interesting, and I would love to know more about
>> the details of the reactants.  It sounds like you’ve come up with a mixture
>> which may contain one or more key ingredients not yet identified as being
>> of primary significance to the high-gain modes of these systems.
>>
>>
>>
>> If I may fire away:
>>
>> What size Fe2O3 and TiH2 grains were present?
>>
>> Is this mixture generally not hygroscopic, and therefore is curing the
>> reactor’s sealant a simple matter as compared to LAH?
>> Are you tumbling or milling these reactants, or performing any other
>> notable processing steps, prior to putting them into the reactors?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for sharing, and keep up the great work!
>>
>>
>>
>> -Bob
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Jack Cole [mailto:jcol...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 17, 2015 1:08 PM
>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:melted alumina tube
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>>
>>
>> The input power was ~260W.  I don't know what the R value of the
>> insulation is.  I had the cell surrounded by high purity alumina powder and
>> covered with a thin sheet of ceramic insulation.  I used standard 120V AC
>> 60hz with a triac type dimmer switch (chops the waves starting at V=0).
>> I'll have to check with the manufacturer to see what the remaining 5% of
>> the tube is.  The heating element was Kanthal A1.  It's strange that the
>> heating element was able to completely melt at points.  In the past, it has
>> always failed before melting.
>>
>>
>>
>> I was using INCO type 255 nickel, TiH2, LiOh, KOH, aluminum powder, and
>> Fe2O3.  Good idea on the small amount of fuel which should cause some
>> localized melting.
>>
>>
>>
>> The fact that the fuel was a small diameter cylinder seems to suggest
>> that it was fully expanded in the tube and shrunk down.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jack
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Jack--
>>
>>
>>
>> It looks like you had a pretty good reaction.
>>
>>
>>
>> What was the input power?  What is the R value of the insulation on the
>> outside of the electric coils?  What was the nature of the electrical
>> input--frequency etc?  And what is the electrical heating element
>> material?   If you have an acetylene torch, see if you can melt a piece of
>> the tube that melted.
>>
>>
>>
>> The tube may have had glass fibers incorporated in order to improve
>> strength.  You indicated it was 95% pure.  What was the other 5%?
>>
>>
>>
>> What was you fuel mixture?  You may want to try a small fuel loading and
>> see if the same intense reaction happens--all else the same.
>>
>>
>>
>> Try the test with a iron core instead of a fuel load and determine if
>> there is an apparent magnetic field which would hold the iron core in
>> position when direct current is applied to the heating coil.  An
>> alternating current would of course change the magnetic field and may
>> make for null reaction conditions.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Try 2 or 3 t/c's if you can--one inside and two outside to get a measure
>> of the temperature gradient along the tube.  Also another easy way to
>> determine temperatures is the use of thermal sticks on accessible
>> surfaces.  Welders use these to determine preheating temperatures.  They
>> may provide a cheap temperature measure for you.
>>
>>
>>
>> Keep it shielded--good luck.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> *From:* Jack Cole <jcol...@gmail.com>
>>
>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 17, 2015 9:39 AM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:melted alumina tube
>>
>>
>>
>> To add a couple of more details.  The agglomerated piece of material is
>> extremely hard.  I tried to break it off with pliers, but it seemed like it
>> would take more force than to break the entire cell.  The resistance wire
>> is extremely difficult to separate from the cell. I plan to open the cell
>> with a diamond blade later today to see if more can be learned about what
>> took place (e.g., evidence of melting on the inside of tube).  I was able
>> to get one piece of the resistance wire pried from the tube.  There were
>> indentations in the cell.
>>
>>
>>
>> As a follow-up experiment, I need to run it without the fuel to the same
>> power levels to see if the same effects occur.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Jack Cole <jcol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I had an interesting experiment yesterday.  This was my first time using
>> a triac to regulate input power and sealing the tube with a compression
>> fitting.  Unfortunately, my thermocouple failed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Take a look at the alumina tube and the evidence for melting.  The
>> furnace sealant which I coated it with completely melted and agglomerated
>> to the bottom of the cell (also appears to be mixed with melted alumina).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.lenr-coldfusion.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/IMG_20150317_084823_361.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>> The tube was purchased from China and is purportedly 95% pure.  It was
>> supposed to have a continuous operating temperature of 1500C.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any opinions?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jack
>>
>>
>>
>>
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