Do you understand why so many of the skeptics of Parkhomov's boiling bucket system stick to the notion that his test is not valid due to water escaping along with the steam? With that thought to consider it seems likely that they would complain about the kettle idea as well. This leaves me to wonder why the general physicists do not set these guys straight. Perhaps some of us should attempt to locate a peer reviewed article from main line researchers of old that prove the technique is reasonable. This question must have been reviewed over and over in the past, especially during the period when steam engines were king.
Bob Cook mentioned that there is a device used to separate water from a water and steam mixture using centrifugal force. Does that imply that the original stream contains plenty of water that must be removed? I suspect that super heated steam would be of nearly 100% quality, while steam emitted from a pot of atmospheric pressure boiling water may not be that high. A tiny amount of water can strongly impact the heat content calculation. The report that Parkhomov generated implied that his steam quality was very good since the calibration worked as expected with a known heating power. Is there reason to believe that the physical arrangement of his bucket calorimeter is especially good at keeping the steam clean? Perhaps the location of the LENR heated inner container lid tends to super heat the steam slightly before it exits his device. Since water does not directly contact that surface of the chamber, it should be quite a bit higher than 100 C unless cooled by the steam contacting it. That design idea might be one to which we give plenty of consideration. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Jun 15, 2015 8:57 pm Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:The good, the bad and the ugly David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: Is there a method that can be used to ensure that the steam quality is 100%? Sparge it. (Condense it in cold water.) This is probably only accurate to within plus minus 5% but there can be no mistake about the results. It only works with power of ~100 W or more, I expect, and it only works for 10 minutes. All the ideas that immediately come into my thoughts seem far too complicated for most experiments. It is a piece of cake. Anyway, just use a kettle spout and there is no way a significant amount of entrained water will leave the vessel. - Jed
