Fran, one problem that I recall that always arises is the question concerning the quality of the steam that boils off. The final skeptical trump card is that liquid water is carried by the rapidly moving steam and immediately invalidates the calculation of the amount of heat exiting the system. Most likely, this is a valid concern in many cases.
Is there a method that can be used to ensure that the steam quality is 100%? All the ideas that immediately come into my thoughts seem far too complicated for most experiments. Perhaps someone can devise a standard technique that he can prove to generate that 100% goal which can then be used by all of our fine experimenters. That is a tall task but might be worth their effort. Another approach would be to obtain a steam quality indicator of some type that can be attached to the systems. I am not personally aware of an instrument of this type but it would seem to be of value to technicians trouble shooting steam systems. Does anyone among our group know of the existance of such a device? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Roarty, Francis X <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Jun 15, 2015 12:15 pm Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:The good, the bad and the ugly Dave, Good argument BUT one thought to consider is what if this heating coil self destruct is the primary failure for large COP LENR experiments. This would make the experiment worthwhile in that it would immediately open the door to scaling the heating value beyond the microwaves ability as a source. Instead of brewing a small cup of tea the experiment could be designed to boil a number of gallons of water –if the calorimetry is always going to be suspect anyway then we should just skip it and instead experiment boiling water volumes far exceeding available power from the mains. Fran From: David Roberson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 11:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:The good, the bad and the ugly I agree with Dan. It will be more difficult to convince anyone except a person that believes that LENR is real. This technique is no where near as reliable as a true, calibrated calorimeter. There are just too many variables to contend with. If the goal is to prove that LENR exists to others then this is not going to be adequate. All you have to do is to observe the recent history of skeptical behavior towards any experiment that we have witnessed. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Rocha <[email protected]> To: John Milstone <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Jun 15, 2015 10:21 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:The good, the bad and the ugly Also, even with the control, it is like food. Using different food will heat differently. The material of the control should be different from the actual cell.
