Is the new MFMP test flawed from the start?For good high temperature 
thermocouples try a niobium-iridium junction.  Iridium wires are expensive, 
however inert.  And niobium is almost as good.  A custom t/c vendor should be 
able to either weld them or electroplate them into a good junction.  Welding is 
a more common joining technique, but electro-plating may give a better bond 
without any carbon or oxygen contamination.

Bob Cook 


From: Jones Beene 
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 3:34 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: [Vo]:Is the new MFMP test flawed from the start?

I wasn’t aware of “photon multiplication” as a potential hindrance to IR 
testing (in the context of thermometry) until recently, but it is a hot topic 
in Optics journals these days. Was it even mentioned wrt Lugano? Doubt it. For 
instance - with quantum dots as the receptor, 7 new visible photons can be 
emitted from every UV photon entering the dot. This would change the blackbody 
curve of the thermal emitter should it also be a UV emitter. Does the glow 
stick contain quantum dots and does the gain involve UV? The would greatly 
alter assumptions.

Much was made of the alumina emissivity problem, but that is a different 
subject than photon multiplication (which relates to another underlying 
assumption – that the thermal emitter is not an intrinsic light source). Thus, 
emissivity is different from multiplication - and both can cause errors. Bob 
Higgins revised the suspected Lugano temperature down to 1100C, from the 
original 1410C - based on an emissivity correction, but if photon 
multiplication was happening at the same time, and the E-Cat is an intrinsic UV 
emitter - there could be even less energy gain than the thermal calculation 
indicates.

The sad thing is that in both cases, the simple expedient of a specialty black 
coating could solve the problem. Surely MFMP are now aware of the necessity of 
such a coating. Here is one of many companies which provides them.

http://www.aremco.com/high-emissivity-coatings/


According to E-Cat World, a new glow-stick test is underway. The plan is to use 
a non-contact thermometry again, including an IR thermometer rather than the 
thermocouple that was used with the Padua test. Both the IR thermometer and the 
Optris Pi 160 will give incorrect readings if IR photons are multiplied in the 
range in which they operate… unless coated.

Personally, I do not believe that K-type thermocouples will be accurate either, 
so the black coating is a must. Type K may be used up to 1260C in non-oxidizing 
or inert atmospheres. According to experts, in marginally oxidizing atmosphere, 
such as coated with a ceramic cement and operating in air, the situation is 
different. As low as 800C the chromel wire of the pair will start to corrode in 
a phenomenon known as "green rot". 


Anyway, if it’s not too late – please paint the reactor with high emissivity 
paint and use a platinum thermocouple. Otherwise – expect to hear the same 
complaints from skeptics as before.


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