Have you done a spectroscopic analysis of all the radiation produced by the
reactor including x-rays, extreme ultraviolet(aka black light), and RF
radio frequencies?

On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 1:03 PM, AlanG <[email protected]> wrote:

>  @Jones
>
> We tested the Aramco coating in our experiments at HUG in February 2015.
> It was moderately effective but was found to degrade over time at 900°C.
> See the image at
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxxJkjesxe4kUUJubGlNaEZ1VVU
>
> You can also see in that image the effect of long-term heating on
> alumina-based cement, probably due to non-reversible phase change in the
> crystal structure. I agree that these kinds of problems make IR temperature
> measurement difficult, and I use it in combination with thermocouples as a
> check measurement.
>
> Regarding the possibility of UV secondary emission, alumina appears to be
> opaque at such wavelengths. See the graph from reference 4 in Bob Higgins
> paper: http://tinyurl.com/ltq8kvf
> So to fit your hypothesis, any UV emission from quantum dots in a
> GlowStick reactor would have to occur at the outer (cooler) surface to add
> to the radiated energy. Otherwise the UV would simply be thermalized in the
> bulk material.
>
> AlanG / MFMP
>
>
> On 7/27/2015 3:34 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
>
> I wasn’t aware of “photon multiplication” as a potential hindrance to IR
> testing (in the context of thermometry) until recently, but it is a hot
> topic in Optics journals these days. Was it even mentioned wrt Lugano?
> Doubt it. For instance - with quantum dots as the receptor, 7 new visible 
> photons
> can be emitted from every UV photon entering the dot. This would change
> the blackbody curve of the thermal emitter should it also be a UV emitter. 
> Does
> the glow stick contain quantum dots and does the gain involve UV? The
> would greatly alter assumptions.
>
> Much was made of the alumina emissivity problem, but that is a different
> subject than photon multiplication (which relates to another underlying
> assumption – that the thermal emitter is not an intrinsic light source). Thus,
> emissivity is different from multiplication - and both can cause errors. Bob
> Higgins revised the suspected Lugano temperature down to 1100C, from the
> original 1410C - based on an emissivity correction, but if photon
> multiplication was happening at the same time, and the E-Cat is an
> intrinsic UV emitter - there could be even less energy gain than the
> thermal calculation indicates.
>
> The sad thing is that in both cases, the simple expedient of a specialty
> black coating could solve the problem. Surely MFMP are now aware of the
> necessity of such a coating. Here is one of many companies which provides
> them.
>
> *http://www.aremco.com/high-emissivity-coatings/*
> <http://www.aremco.com/high-emissivity-coatings/>
>
> According to E-Cat World, a new glow-stick test is underway. The plan is
> to use a non-contact thermometry again, including an IR thermometer
> rather than the thermocouple that was used with the Padua test. Both the
> IR thermometer and the Optris Pi 160 will give incorrect readings if IR 
> photons
> are multiplied in the range in which they operate… unless coated.
>
> Personally, I do not believe that K-type thermocouples will be accurate
> either, so the black coating is a must. Type K may be used up to 1260C in
> non-oxidizing or inert atmospheres. According to experts, in marginally
> oxidizing atmosphere, such as coated with a ceramic cement and operating
> in air, the situation is different. As low as 800C the chromel wire of
> the pair will start to corrode in a phenomenon known as "green rot".
>
> Anyway, if it’s not too late – please paint the reactor with high
> emissivity paint and use a platinum thermocouple. Otherwise – expect to
> hear the same complaints from skeptics as before.
>
>
>

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