In reply to  David Roberson's message of Tue, 13 Oct 2015 19:38:25 -0400:
Hi,
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>
>>Due to breakup of medium to large hydrocarbon
>molecules in a gasoline engine,
>the number of particles increases there too.
>Also, formation of water molecules
>results in a single O2 molecule becoming two
>water molecules. 
>
>Typical reaction:-
>
>2C8H18 (octane) +  25O2   => 16CO2 +
>18H2O
>
>2 + 25 => 34<
>
>
>Robin thanks for posting the reaction taking place in a typical gasoline 
>engine.  I realized that a small increase to the total number of molecules 
>would occur, but if you consider that most of the gas molecules within the 
>system are nitrogen, then that increase is not overly significant.   

Agreed.

>I guesstimate the total increase is less than 10% when burning the fuel.  With 
>the Papp process I am suspecting more like a 100 % change...is that too 
>optimistic?

I suspect so. I doubt that all the atoms are going to be ionized at once, though
some would lose more than one electron.


>
>
>
>>Stirling engines don't have an
>exhaust either do they?<
>That is a good point.   In a normal ICE a large amount of heat escapes the 
>system along with the exhaust.  The Papp device does not seem to suffer that 
>loss from what I understand.  But, always keep in mind that the Papp engine 
>might not be real.  F9!  :-)

..so Feynman pulled the plug on a non-existent engine, that then can't possibly
have exploded (because it didn't exist), and hence there was no ensuing court
case? ;)

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

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