Dave,
I haven’t seen any calculation for the energy to densify. He does say it takes only pressure, time and moderate temperature. Unlike Mills, Holmlid is not secretive and is open to outside contact and these questions will be asked. As you say, Holmlid and Mills cannot both be correct. From: David Roberson I have not been following the work of Holmlid closely. Do I understand you correctly that he calculates it actually takes energy to cause the hydrogen to become compacted? That reminds me of a balloon where you have to squeeze it to make it smaller. Of course this is 180 degrees out of phase with what Mills seems to believe. Only one of these possibilities can be correct. Actually, neither could be accurate since no one has proved that hydrogen can actually shrink. Dave

