The Holmlid effect is common throughout LERN as stated by the AIRBUS guy.

See how 8 different LENR systems produce  the same tell tail indications on
photos, Even Pd/D

http://restframe.com/rf/home.html





On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:

> *From:* Stephen Cooke
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> Ø  It's a nice process you are describing, but I'm curious how it can
> generate the mesons reported by Holmlid? Is there some mechanism based on
> this idea where mesons are produced or can they only generated by very high
> energy interactions with nucleons and require much higher energies than you
> are describing here?
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> I am somewhat in Eric’s camp on the mesons, kaons and so on, which could
> be misidentified and/or have other explanations. The important detail in
> Holmlid’s work seems to be the clusters of dense hydrogen, and how to make
> them… That and the elegance of finding a way to make clusters of hydrogen
> on an inexpensive catalyst, with very high chemical binding energy.
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> The mesons etc. which are claimed to be present could be related to cosmic
> rays – and/or to a hidden feature of dense hydrogen, such as having a large
> capture cross-section for muons, neutrinos or other exotica. Didn’t you
> mention that ? Plus – the sharpness of the laser pulse can cause the
> occasional nuclear reaction in normal deuterium, even if there was no dense
> RM. Certainly the dense clusters would seem to make an ideal target for ICF
> fusion. I am quite happy to leave all of that to the National Labs, in
> favor of focusing on the low end. That would mean gamma free.
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> All of the high energy results, if accurate, are icing on the cake. The
> “cake” in this metaphor, would be … finally … a valid explanation for the
> “real LENR,” with emphasis on “low energy.” If the thermal gain can be
> understood as chemical, with no gamma and little transmutation – then that
> is the huge benefit of Holmlid’s work.
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