a.ashfield posts a link to a graph from the IPCC showing computer model trends with two additional plots overlayed showing data from 2 satellite data sets and 4 balloon. Thanks for the graph. It's easy to explain why the two plots are so different. The 2 Satellite data sets and 4 balloon data sets are all sampling very upper atmosphere temps and the upper atmospheric temps simply do not change much. Nor should it. At the top of the atmosphere temp should correlate closely to the the solar input. If you read the paper I linked this is mentioned in the first couple of pages. Unfortunately many people do not know this, and post it as proof that the IPCC models are some how skewed or bias.
The link I provided is a good unbiased paper that tells it like it is for the physics behind global warming. If you don't want to wade through all of the math and math proofs this student uses to make his case, then just read the introduction, the conclusions. His conclusion is broadly generalized to a global average temp but it's soundly derived. On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:23 PM, a.ashfield <[email protected]> wrote: > > <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]&q=from:%22CB+Sites%22> > <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]&q=date:20151203>CB > Sites wrote: "In regards to the physics of global warming, it's very real." > Of course it's warming. The world has warmed 0.5C/century since the end > of the Little Ice Age, but I doubt that is what you meant. > > Your linked paper may well be right based on the assumptions used. The > problem is the assumptions are wrong. Some are missing. None of the > models can hindcaste well beyond the range for which they were tuned > because they don't yet understand things like clouds and cannot forecast > the multidecadal oscillations as these are chaotic. > > You can see just how poorly they all work in the following link (there are > many similar), no matter that someone has written a paper proving by > another model that the models are right. > > http://b-i.forbesimg.com/peterferrara/files/2013/11/Roy-Spencer-IPCC-Models1-1024x711.jpg > > >
