ChemE Stewart <[email protected]> wrote:

> Actually, the taxpayers just paid off $539M of their own loan to Ivanpah.
> Taxpayers lent the money and taxpayers paid.
>

That is not what Renewable Energy News said. I do not know which version of
the news is correct, but I kind of doubt the Federal Government would agree
to the arrangement described in your source. (Cato.org)

Both sources may be biased. Renewable Energy News is opposed to fossil
fuels and in favor of renewable energy and new energy sources. Cato.org is
the opposite. I doubt they have any objection to the gigantic subsidies for
oil and coal.

They oppose energy research, including research into fossil fuel. I expect
they would be furious to learn that DARPA has supported cold fusion!

http://www.downsizinggovernment.org/energy/energy-subsidies

Some of the items listed here, such as the National Ignition Facility and
most National Labs are in the nuclear weapons development business, not
energy. They are under the DoE but they should be in the DoD.

Speaking of the DoD, see:

http://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2015/11/06

- Jed

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