Harry--

That is a good find.

I think this idea was exploited in the development of gamma lasers “gasers” in 
the 70’s and 80’s.  There was a ton of papers on this very issue of metastable 
states of nuclei and their stimulated decay in unison.  It seems to have gone 
underground since then. 

The decay of the K-isomers I believe was stimulated by magnetic filed 
oscillations.  An entire batch of K-isomers would give up their energy in 
unison and in a direction associated with the magnetic field.  

Bob Cook


From: H Veeder 
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 4:48 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Nuclear Isomers (2005 article in Nature)

This supports what Bob Cook says.


​http://www.wheldon.talktalk.net/kisomers/tutorial/tut4.html

quote: A "nuclear" isomer is defined as a long-lived excited nuclear state. 
There is no strict definition of long-lived, but the lower limit on the 
half-life is normally taken to be about 5 nanoseconds [ns] (10-9 seconds). 
Although this is a somewhat arbitrary limit, such a lifetime is much longer 
than a "typical" excited nuclear state which lives for a few picoseconds [ps] 
(10-12 seconds). In addition, a state living longer than a few nanoseconds can 
easily be separated experimentally from the "typical" prompt states by pulsing 
the beam and selecting only those event that occur away from the beam bursts.

Harry

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Bob Cook <[email protected]> wrote:

  Eric--

  I did misunderstand what I thought you were saying.

  I do agree with you that most people consider nuclear isomers to be excited 
energy states with a large differential energy above the ground state.  

  I have always considered any excited nuclear state to be a nuclear isomer.  I 
do not know what the elevated energy nuclear state which is due to spin energy 
as established during an NMR energy addition would be called.  I think it fits 
the general definition of an excited state with a lifetime less than 10-9 sec., 
and,  thus, it is not metastable from that standpoint.  As you point out normal 
NMR states are not at a large energy differential, except in large magnetic 
fields.  The larger the field, the greater the excited energy is above the 
ground state.   I think that the rule is that the changes in spin angular 
momentum have to be prime number multiples of the h/2-pie quantum of angular 
momentum.  The energy of the elevated state results from the change of the 
nuclear spin magnetic moment in the ambient B magnetic field.  

  Bob Cook


  From: Eric Walker 
  Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 10:20 AM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Nuclear Isomers (2005 article in Nature)

  Hi Bob,

  On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 7:15 AM, Bob Cook <[email protected]> wrote:


    I agree with your thought about the role of isomers in the natural 
abundance of elements.

  I think you accidentally mistook the quote I was quoting from Harry's article 
for something I myself said. I was asking for clarification of what they were 
saying.


    Isomers are what makes nuclear magnetic resonance (NMR) a valuable tool.  
The idea is that a nucleus is excited to an elevated “isomeric” energy state by 
a RESONANT radio frequency input energy in a magnetic field and then decays 
back to its initial “ground state'’ or some other ground state not the same as 
the original state.

  Forgive my ignorance -- when we talk about NMR, I think of polarization of 
nuclei with nonzero spin in an external field using radiowaves or microwaves.  
When I think of an isomer, I think of a nuclear isomer, in which the nucleons 
in a nucleus are in a configuration that lies keV or MeV above the ground 
state.  I don't think radiowaves or microwaves can do anything to populate or 
depopulate these states; or am I mistaken?

  A question I have about the nuclear isomerism referred to in the opinion 
piece has to do with its potential utility.  It seems like it would at best be 
good as a battery, or, possibly, a bomb.

  Eric

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