Cant we just take it to The wilderness like a proper desert etc and see what it does. Steorn havent marketed it as a "dude faraday cage woah buy now" type thing at all. It was just an interesting comment from em because everyone is all "RF Harvester LOL" as a way of ignoring their device.
Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa. > Jones Beene <[email protected]> kirjoitti 26.1.2016 kello 21.17: > > Bob, > > Well – I looked this up online, specifically wrt Wi-Fi which is primarily the > RF of interest for recharging since the end use is cell phones. This > frequency will be around 2-3 GHz. In the video below - it was 2.4 GHz. > > As this video shows, a single Faraday cage reduces the RF signal - but only > by half !... and grounding the cage does not improve that. I am shocked (so > to speak) to see that the effect of a metal cage is so small for this > frequency. > > Of course, a signal which is reduced by half is still able to recharge an > Orbo. This is Steorn’s gimmick, apparently. They assume that their audience > believes that a single Farraday cage allows no signal, when in fact, it > reduces the signal by half. Adding a second Wi-Fi router would presumably > bring the signal back to an uncaged level! > > To do this right, Steorn (or the customer) would need at least 3 and probably > four nested Faraday cages and also to turn off all Wi-Fi. That way it should > be possible to do an accurate test. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eUCyR7jesk > > Jones > > From: Bob Higgins > > Jones, > > A Faraday cage requires no ground. It just requires a continuous metal box > enclosure. The Orbo test would be simple. Put the Orbo and the phone inside > the box with its charging cable connected totally within the box. No cables > enter or exit from the box. Close the box for XX hours and see if the phone > is charged when it is removed. Then close the box and keep the Orbo entirely > within the box. Then do it again - over and over. > > If you want to eliminate the possibility of energy gain from the outside, > just don't let any cables go in or out of the box. Strictly speaking, you > would also want to have a magnetic mu-metal shield around the Faraday box. > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote: > Observers should overlook the Steorn claim of Faraday cage testing as > essentially meaningless… with a history. Steorn was saying the exact same > thing about the other Orbo incarnations, going back 8 years. Look it up - > it’s still online - same old BS then, as now. > > Even if they “got religion” and are honest this time around, consider what > they are really saying. The problem with the claimed Faraday testing is that > you cannot accurately test any device containing a large capacity battery > unless you leave it there for months, knowing for sure that the cage is > actually “earthed”. Steorn has in the past used a ground which could actually > have functioned as an antenna ! (and probably did) > > At best, a Faraday cage would eliminate a possible source of battery > recharging from RF. But Steorn did not show proper grounding… so we are back > to the question of basic honesty. > > Side note: As moderator Bill B sez: the word "ground" can mean several > things, several of which can actually be used to implement fraud – or it can > be inadvertent, in the case of neon lights in the pub wiring… Ho, Ho Three > more quarks for Muster Mac! > > 1-4 below are not proper earth grounds since they are easily tampered with. > > 1) A direct connection to the house or factory power supply via a > negative terminal. > > 2) A “common” or negative connection of uncertain status based on having > a third, or ground prong. > > 3) A connection to the inside of a shielded metal fuse box. > > 4) A connection to a metal mass which is much larger than the circuit > (e.g. car chassis or “chassis ground”) > > …or > > 5) A direct electrical connection to a conductor purposely driven into > the earth or to a copper water pipe which extends out of the house or factory > (or pub) and into earth. > > Only 5 is a useful as a Faraday cage ground which is difficult to trick. > >
