What a naïve specious comment “an engineer will lose his license” the reality 
is that license revocations very very rarely happen. There is even a clause is 
PEng society rules that says ‘no brother shall criticize a brother’ meaning 
that PEng’s are prohibited from criticizing other PEng’s. Countless examples of 
bad engineering are rampant without consequences to the engineers. 

 

This is the problem with Vortex and other social media. They are great places 
for some good exchange of ideas but so clouded in bullshit that it makes it 
very difficult. Not at all different from the rest of human society of course 
but alas we engage in ‘social media’ in the intimacy of our closest personal 
space. 

 

Where did the idea of civility disappear to. Those armchair peanut gallery 
denizens slandering and libeling Rossi here ought to be ashamed but of course 
the nature of Trolls is that reaction to their bile is what they seek, any 
reaction. Get a life. Do a real experiment. 

 

From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 7:48 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Press Release - Cold Fusion (LENR) Verified - Inventor Sues 
Industrial Heat, LLC.

 

Lennart Thornros <[email protected]> wrote:

 

Once again it is not judging about how well it worked for you. Just saying that 
there is no guarantee coming from being licensed.

 

Yes, there is an explicit guarantee. If a licensed HVAC engineer publishes an 
evaluation with a mistake, he will lose his license. That is his livelihood. As 
I said before, he will go from being an upper-middle-class professional to 
working at McDonald's. That means he has to conduct the test with the proper 
instruments in place, according to methods approved by law in the state of 
Florida. These methods are extremely reliable. There is no question that if you 
do things according to the book you will get the right answer.

 

The regulations for Florida are not online at present. The state of Florida 
website links do not work. Here are regulations for Utah, which are similar:

 

http://laborcommission.utah.gov/media/pdfs/boilerelevatormine/pubs/Boiler%20Compliance%20Manual.pdf

 

A 1 MW reactor is 3.4 million BTU/h.

The regs basically say you have to certify the boiler complies with NFPA 85 
BOILER AND COMBUSTION SYSTEMS HAZARDS CODE, which is a book available here:

http://www.nfpa.org/codes-and-standards/document-information-pages?mode=code 
<http://www.nfpa.org/codes-and-standards/document-information-pages?mode=code&code=85>
 &code=85

 

Here is a brief description. Does this sound easy to master? Would you trust 
some guy who has not passed certification testing to deal with these issues?

 

NFPA 85: DOCUMENT SCOPE

1.1* Scope. This code applies to the following: A.1.1 Technological advances in 
recent years and, in particular, the pervasiveness of microprocessor-based 
hardware make it even more important that only highly qualified individuals be 
employed in applying the requirements of this code to operating systems. Each 
type of hardware has its own unique features and operational modes. It is vital 
that the designer of the safety system be completely familiar with the features 
and weaknesses of the specific hardware and possess a thorough understanding of 
this code and its intent. It is not possible for this code to encompass all 
specific hardware applications, nor should this code be considered a “cookbook” 
for the design of a safety system. In applying any type of equipment to a 
safety system, the designer should consider carefully all the possible failure 
modes and the effect that each might have on the integrity of the system and 
the safety of the unit and personnel. In particular, no single point failure 
should result in an unsafe or uncontrollable condition or a masked failure of a 
microprocessor-based system that could result in the operator unwittingly 
taking action that could lead to an unsafe condition. In this code, the 
sections that apply to all fuels should be used in conjunction with those 
sections covering the specific fuel utilized. (1) Single burner boilers, 
multiple burner boilers, stokers, and atmospheric fluidized bed boilers with a 
fuel input rating of 3.7 MWt (12.5 million Btu/hr) or greater (2) Pulverized 
fuel systems at any heat input rate (3) Fired or unfired steam generators used 
to recover heat from combustion turbines [heat recovery steam generators 
(HRSGs)] and other combustion turbine exhaust systems at any heat input rate 
1.1.1 This code covers design, installation, operation, maintenance, and 
training. 1.1.2 This code covers strength of the structure, operation and 
maintenance procedures, combustion and draft control equipment, safety 
interlocks, alarms, trips, and other related controls that are essential to 
safe equipment operation. 1.1.3 This code does not cover process heaters used 
in chemical and petroleum manufacture in which steam generation is incidental 
to the operation of a processing system. 1.1.4 Chapter 5 covers single burner 
boilers that fire the following fuels: (1) Fuel gas as defined in 3.3.74. 
(2)*Other gas having a calorific value and characteristics similar to natural 
gas A.1.1.4(2) This can include some heavier-than-air gases. (3) Fuel oil as 
defined in 3.3.73.3 (4) Fuel gas and fuel oil that are fired simultaneously for 
fuel transfer (5) Fuel gas and fuel oil that are fired simultaneously and 
continuously 1.1.5 Chapter 6 covers multiple burner boilers firing one or more 
of the following: (1) Fuel gas, as defined in 3.3.74 (2) Fuel oil, as defined 
in 3.3.73.3 (3) Pulverized coal, as defined in 3.3.73.2.1 (4) Simultaneous 
firing of more than one of the fuels stated in 1.1.5(1) through 1.1.5(3) 1.1.6 
Chapter 7 covers atmospheric fluidized bed boilers. 1.1.7* Chapter 8 covers 
HRSG systems and other combustion turbine exhaust systems. A.1.1.7 It is not 
possible for this code to encompass the specific hardware applications, nor 
should it be considered a cookbook for the design of a safe HRSG system. A HRSG 
is a complex system, often involving numerous components, multiple steam 
pressure levels, emission control systems, and augmented air or supplementary 
firing. The simplest combined cycle plant automatically has certain hazards 
that are common to all designs. Coupling various designs of heat recovery units 
with combustion turbines of varying characteristics in different configurations 
(such as varying damper arrangements) can produce unique hazards. The potential 
ineffective use of the combustion turbine as the source of the purge and 
potential sources of substantial fuel entering the HRSG from normal and false 
starts are major considerations that need to be addressed. Other concerns are 
special provisions, for example, automatic transfer during transients, multiple 
stacks that can create reverse flows, internal maintenance of the HRSG with the 
combustion turbine in operation, multiplicity of cross connections between 
units to prevent shutdown, and fitting the HRSG into a small space using finned 
tubes that are more sensitive to temperature and subject to iron fires. 
Insufficient failure analysis of arrangements, configurations, and equipment 
can increase the number of damaging incidents, lost production, and the 
possibility of personal injury or death. It is vital that the designer of the 
combustion turbine and any burner safety system(s) be completely familiar with 
the features, characteristics, and limitations of the specific hardware and 
also possess a thorough understanding of this code and its intent. 1.1.8 
Chapter 9 covers pulverized fuel systems, beginning with the raw fuel bunker, 
which is upstream of the pulverizer and is the point at which primary air 
enters the pulverizing system, and terminating at the point where pressure can 
be relieved by fuel being burned or collected in a device that is built in 
accordance with this code. The pulverized fuel system shall include the primary 
air ducts, which are upstream of the pulverizer, to a point where pressure can 
be relieved. 1.1.9 Chapter 10 covers boilers that use a stoker to fire the 
following fuels: (1) Coal (2) Wood (3) Refuse-derived fuel (RDF) (4) Municipal 
solid waste (MSW) (5) Other solid fuels 1.1.9.1 Where solid fuel is fired 
simultaneously with other fuels (e.g., a solid fuel stoker fired in combination 
with fuel gas, fuel oil, or pulverized auxiliary fuel), additional controls and 
interlocks shall include those covered in Chapters 5, 6, and 9. Exception No. 
1: The purge requirements of Chapters 5 and 6 shall not be required when the 
stoker is firing and the boiler is on-line. In those cases, if no cooling air 
is being provided to the auxiliary burners, a purge of their associated air 
supply ducts shall be provided. Exception No. 2: Where fuel oil or fuel gas is 
fired in a supervised manual system in accordance with Chapter 5, the excessive 
steam pressure interlock shall not be required.

 

 

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