Suspension of disbelief is the norm. Hey the world refused to believe that Bernie Madoff could possibly have concocted a Ponzi scheme as vast as the one he ran for years. In almost all cold fusion and lenr work there is a mysterious absence of the incredibly available work to identify the nuclear ash. Doing so is "good, fast, and cheap" and in this world that is a miracle alone as one usually only gets to choose two or those three elements. Mostly/likely what has happened is that claimed lenr/cold fusion is of such minimal consequence that such nuclear ash detective work has been done, failed, and been kept secret. Alas the other side of the story is that so many male scientists have so much ego engaged in their work that they cannot ask for help from others, that's why Mars is so cold. ;)
From: Brian Ahern [mailto:ahern_br...@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 5:04 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; John Wallace Subject: Re: [Vo]:Holmlid, Mills & muons The Holmlid discussion seems like the Emperor's New Clothes. We are speculating wildly about an effect with little or no proof. This allows for imagining a wild array of particles for which there is no independent data. We cannot even agree on hon Muons are detected as a function of energy The same can be said for: Rossi's E-CAT Mills' Sun Cell Brilliuon's device All four require a suspension of disbelief and invites umbrage from the gullable audience. _____ From: Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com <mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 8:56 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com <mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Holmlid, Mills & muons Keep in mind as well that Holmlid adduces not only muons, but kaons and pions as well. Once we introduce (negative) kaons, we have the following decays to deal with: The neutral pion assures us that there will either be penetrating gammas or positrons, which lead to 511 keV annihilation photons, a signature that is easy to pick up and that will pass through thin shielding. The energy balance for kaons does not make sense to me; but, then again, neither does that for pions or muons. If we go along with Holmlid and allow negative kaons, we must either also allow positive and neutral kaons, or we must come up with a reason for why they don't occur. But it doesn't matter; negative kaons are no doubt not being detected in the first place. They are a merely means to an end, explaining, however tenuously, where the muons come from. Eric
