I agree with much of your assessment of the Rossi effect, what you call the 
Rossi reactor.  I               agree that there is a history of high 
temperature reactions, but many of these have been associated with the Pd-D 
system, which I consider entails a different physical mechanism for the 
conversion of potential energy to kinetic energy.

Rossi has developed a reactor (an engineered system which includes a control 
system for the important physical parameters—dynamic magnetic and electric 
field intensity, and temperature of the nickel nano- structures—and heat 
transfer devices/agents) that works to limit the production of energetic 
particles associated with normal fission or hot fusion reactors and the 
unstable isotopes such reactions are notorious for.

One of the keys to the success of the Rossi reactor R&D IMHO has been the 
development of  a Ni based nano-particle—a quantum mechanical coherent 
system—which is cooled by Li vapor—to avoid a run-away reaction which you, 
Axil, correctly associate with temperatures around 3000 C.

The small size of the nano-particles provides a limit to the effects of a 
run-away release of potential energy and  destruction of the reactor or more 
than one nano-particle.  (And no muons or other sub atomic particles are 
produced by the relatively low kinetic energy associated with 3000 C. )

There are many commercial devices that create temperatures above 3000C, for 
example electric arc welders which I have used many times.  They do not produce 
the energetic particles or photons you, Axil. are concerned about with respect 
to the “Rossi reactor” IHMO.

Bob Cookhere are many common commercial reactions that occu

From: Axil Axil<>
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 8:06 AM
To: vortex-l<>
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Picking up the pieces

There are multiple third party validations. Rossi's methods and approach have 
been verified in part by his many replicators. This is not to say that Rossi's 
reactor or any LENR reactor for that matter  can be commercialized due to heavy 
subatomic particle emissions. This includes R. Mills and the SunCell.

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 5:11 AM, Alain Sepeda 
<<>> wrote:
from recent data, taking any conclusion on Rossi's claims is at best risky, and 
to be honest, baseless.

2017-07-07 3:01 GMT+02:00 Axil Axil 

What the Rossi experiments has shown over many years is that LENR in a lattice 
is not workable because the reaction cannot be controlled. This lack of control 
makes the E-Cat technology untenable. Rossi has realized this and Rossi is will 
to let this knowhow fadeaway. The LENR reaction wants to operate at the boiling 
point of the metal lattice (nickel) which is 3000K. LENR is based on activation 
of nanoparticles in a dusty plasma. Rossi has struggled to control the LENR 
reaction at low temperatures but he always fails because LENR would invariably 
get to 3000K and meltdown his reactor. So Rossi finally decided to use reactor 
structural material that doesn't melt at 3000K. This material must be an 
insulator that does not melt at 3000K. Mills has stumbled on the same reaction 
and his SunCell runs at the vapor point of silver at only 2200C. Mills has 
solved the meltdown problem is another way, he justs runs everything as a 
liquid without any containment. Holmlid is on to the same LENR mechanism. There 
is nothing unusual with metalized hydrogen. In the LENR reaction, metalized 
hydrogen acts like any other metallic nanoparticle.

Using a lattice for LENR is a losing proposition. The dusty plasma approach to 
the LENR reaction is the only way to go. I beleive that Rossi has settled on a 
high temperature  tube material that works: boron nitride, a transparent 
isolator whose melting point is 3000C.

Alan Smith 

I do remember. BTW, eye witness accounts claim that the tube itself is 
transparent, and the electrodes bright silver colour. nothing is visible in the 
gap. I have no idea about sealing or anything else - except that the plasma can 
apparently be made 'any colour you like'. The example shown was glowing yellow 
when energised for short periods. That's all the info I have.

Unlike most other observers of Rossi, I know that the QuarkX works because its 
reported behavior fits in with my understanding of how LENR works.

For example:

New research into polariton condensates has revealed a side emission channel 
that produces light whose frequency is proportional to the density of the 
polariton aggregation...for example, the dense polariton condinsate produces a 
higher frequency light (blue) and a less dense condinsate will produce red 
light. Rossi must have a way to control the density of the polariton population.


They tackled this problem by highly exciting exciton-polaritons, which are 
particle-like excitations in a semiconductor systems and formed by strong 
coupling between electron-hole pairs and photons. They observed high-energy 
side-peak emission that cannot be explained by two mechanisms known to date: 
Bose-Einstein condensation of exciton-polaritons, nor conventional 
semiconductor lasing driven by the optical gain from unbound electron hole 

The details on this side channel are here

High-energy side-peak emission of exciton-polariton condensates in high density 

In summary, eyewitness reports of QuarkX operating characteristics fit my 
technical expectations perfectly in very many ways.

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Jones Beene 
<<>> wrote:
According to Abd... "All claims dropped on both sides. It is as if the suit was 
never filed. All parties bear their own costs. The action of the Agreement was 
the consent of counsel to settlement without any court order other than 
dismissal, which is final."

No agreements were included... so unless they present something otherwise in a 
joint statement, IH retains the original E-Cat License. No money changes hands.

As for the future of the litigants, it looks like IH paid about $11 million ++ 
for a License which according to them is worthless insofar as it was never 
shown to produce excess heat. Add to that the attorney fees and we see why many 
observers consider IH to be the big loser in this.

That assumes the IP is really worthless, but it may have value in a surprising 
way, even if Rossi could never make it work. Here is the granted patent, and 
there are a number of applications not granted.

Darden raised much more than his losses on the Rossi fiasco and there is a 
small chance that he could make lemonade out of the Rossi lemons, using some of 
it. An interesting development in all of this will be the course that IH takes 
from here on with the remaining money. They are known to have been funding 
others in LENR all along.

Of course IH could abandon the field altogether, but maybe they have a vision 
which transcends Rossigate. Possibly the best thing that could happen is for 
Randell Mills to demonstrate strong gain in that SunCell device. If it turns 
out that Mills device is arguably nuclear - it will not be covered by the 
hydrino IP. There have already been "inside" rumors that recent delays in the 
"Mills' Roadshow" are due to radioactivity showing up. This is expected in LENR 
but not in hydrino-tech and it could change the IP landscape.

Footnote. Rossi's IP covers "Group 10 catalysts" which are nickel, palladium 
and platinum. It does not cover silver, which is being used by Mills and is 
Group 11. Silver is easily activated and perhaps it is activated by dense 
hydrogen. Mills' IP would not cover nuclear reactions. This puts him in a bind. 
If silver is required, but becomes activated, then there is an IP storm brewing.

If I were advising Darden, it would be to look at quickly expanding the IP to 
fill the gap which exists when Mills can no longer hide the radioactivity of 
the SunCell.

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