In reply to  JonesBeene's message of Sun, 27 Aug 2017 16:26:31 -0700:

Following on from Bob's comments, it occurs to me that a small neutral Hydrino,
which has large magnetic moment, might be attracted to nuclei, with an odd mass
number, magnetically.
The force of attraction would increase as it got closer, and if it were small
enough to hang on to its electron till it got within range of the nuclear force,
might go some way toward explaining the transmutation results that have been
seen in LENR.
Note that if Mills' disproportionation reactions are real, then such very small
Hydrinos are readily formed.

>Hi Bob,
>Thanks for your analysis and let me clear up one detail.
> I did not make it clear enough that I am not suggesting the Holmlid version, 
> nor the Mills version, nor the Miley version of dense hydrogen - but a 
> composite, where the charged UDH- is a negative particle (aka hydrino 
> hydride) which actually fully replaces one of the two inner orbital electrons 
> of carbon. A neutral UDH would not work, as you suggest.
>This would mean that the major flaw of the premise becomes the fact that there 
>is a valid reason why the inner orbital cannot be replaced with a much heavier 
>particle with the same charge. 
>If there is such a reason, then the proposition fails unless there are other 
>From: Bob Higgins
>There seems to be a number of flaws in this hypothesis.  First of all, the 
>only way a shrunken neutral hydrogen can "hang around" in an atom of 12C is if 
>it has become in range of the strong force of the nucleus.  In that case, it 
>would become a part of the nucleus and would be ripped to pieces in the 
>process.  It is much more likely that it would be quickly scattered out of the 
>12C atom.  If a hydrino hydride had entered the atom and became a part of the 
>lowest orbital in 12C, it would screen one of the positive charges and would 
>appear as 13B, which would really be unusual because the half-life of real 13B 
>is only 17ms.  The only way a hydrino hydride entering a nucleus could appear 
>as 13C is if it entered an atom of 12N.  However, 12N has a half-life of only 
>11 ms, so you wouldn't find any 12N hanging around for a hydrino hydride to 
>enter….As I understand it, Holmlid's work proposes no UDH in an atomic form - 
>only in a cluster form.  So, he is completely out of this proposition to

Robin van Spaandonk

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