Bob, also if the force on the spring is removed then the extra mass will be re-converted back into energy in addition to the transformation of potential energy into the kinetic energy of the spring's motion as it returns to equilibrium. However, the reconversion of the extra mass back into energy doesn't explain how the force was removed. The conversion (of mass into energy) is an effect of removing the force, rather than a cause of the removal. A possible cause might consist of scissors cutting a string which connects the weight to the end of the spring.
Although the energy produced by conversion can be used to cause other things (which is the point of energy production) the energy produced does not tell us how it came to be stored as mass and how it was then released as energy again. What is required are explanatory physical models which make use of the appropriate forces to store energy (P.E.) and then release it. These models can then be further refined by applying the rules of mass energy conversion. Harry On Tue., Jul. 16, 2019, 5:19 p.m. bobcook39...@hotmail.com, < bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Harry— > > > > Good questions. > > > > I would say pulling on the spring adds potential energy to the spring and > the entity creating the tension. The entiity may be a closed system which > entails the weak “gracity” EM field forces as Jurg suggests. > > > > > > Bob Cook > ------------------------------ > *From:* H LV <hveeder...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2019 9:29:16 AM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to > betheprecursor to all future devices > > > > On Tue., Jul. 16, 2019, 1:12 p.m. Jürg Wyttenbach, <ju...@datamart.ch> > wrote: > >> My model shows that all mass is EM mass and in fact gravitation is the >> weakest EM force. >> >> EM mass behaves exactly as Einstein and others before Einstein already >> found. A spring under tension has more mass than a relaxed spring etc., >> chemical reactions produce heat --> reduces mass. >> > > The extra mass doesn't keep the spring under tension. It is an applied > force which does that. The extra mass doesn't tell us about the nature of > this force. (Is it a weight hanging from the spring? Is the spring being > pulled by a person? etc..) Harry > > >>
