Mizuno has what is needed to measure 4He in his cold fusion reactions. He merely needs to employ a good carbon cold trap to reduce the level of deuterium in the gas aliquot going into his RGA. Without the cold trap the D2 signal will swamp the 4He signal and it won’t be observable. With the cold trap the D2 mass 4 signal will be so dramatically reduced that the 4He shoulder on the D2 mass 4 peak will become clearly resolvable and quantitatively measurable. I have built and tested such cold traps on my own RGA helium instruments and confirmed their reliable signal with samples presented to large magnetic sector mass specs where the 4He and D2 peaks are well separated on the baseline. I’d be happy to build such a cold trap for Mizuno if he simply asks for the favour, or coach him on its construction, a few hours work at most. The measure of 4He in cold fusion is ‘childs play’ for any serious researcher. Of course the ‘toys’ needed cost a pretty penny and one has to have unchildlike patience.
From: Jürg Wyttenbach <ju...@datamart.ch> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 9:20 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices All past experiments doing deuterium LENR I know always directly produced 4-He. If somebody believes that no fusion would happen at all, then he should visit a priest. The key feature of LENR is that fusion happens without any hard radiation that is significantly above background. We, in our lab, can produce LENR reactions with significantly above background gamma radiation. But that is intention to study the LENR mechanism. In the H-H case the SO(4) bond structure of dense hydrogen does not allow direct fusion. Here we see only 500eV going out what is a kind of no go for H-H LENR. H(-H) LENR only works with Lithium and other elements that allow the add-on of H* that of reacts like a neutron. But there were also experiments like 56Fe + H* --> pseudo 57-Co, that behaves halve like 57-Co and finally halve like 57-Fe. finally a very strange state.. similar to halo nuclei. In the Mizuno case we certainly will see 4-He with a 4-He a part > that 106 of the 3-He part. Jürg Am 14.07.19 um 20:45 schrieb JonesBeene: From: Jed Rothwell <mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com> * I assume there is one fundamental cause of cold fusion in all systems. It is the same thing in all cases. This is similar to saying that fission is the same in reactors and bombs, although it looks and acts quite different. This “one fundamental cause” could be the problem – you are tied to an assumption which is not proved. The fission analogy is not useful. Of course such a basic logical error would hinder anyone’s ability to look beyond the limitations of the P&F effect – aka “cold fusion”. In fact in the earlier Mizuno work with nickel at higher pressure - cited in an older thread here - where Mizuno uses both protium and deuterium in different comparative runs at higher pressure - he gets actually better results (more excess heat) from protium than with deuterium. You cannot deny this result. To me this is solid evidence direct from Mizuno that there is more than “one fundamental cause” to excess heat – one being fusion and the other being very different; and thus all future devices must recognize that nuclear fusion is not required for excess heat. This is actually highly desirable as "fusion” alone opens the regulatory doors for all kinds of unnecessary government intrusion. Bottom line is that at least two fundamental causes of excess heat exist. Possibly more. One is nuclear fusion seen in electrolysis where typically lithium and high loading play a role. Another cause is a non-fusion reaction with nickel as the reactant, low loading is desirable, and no lithium is needed. A third possible reaction also acknowledged by Mizuno (and by Ed Storms) is sequential cluster formation with its signature radiation of 630 eV. That third one alone could be used for excess heat without the other two. The nickel reaction works with either hydrogen or deuterium and to confuse things it is probably based on a “nuclear coupling” of some kind - (mass converted into energy) but it is not “nuclear fusion.” It is pretty clear that both or all three fundamental causes for gain are valid over a thirty year history, and very different from each other - and no one knows this more clearly than Mizuno as it stands out prominently from his earlier papers. Jones -- Jürg Wyttenbach Bifangstr.22 8910 Affoltern a.A. 044 760 14 18 079 246 36 06
