Dear Axil
When the flowers of corruption intrude "so called" scientific journals,
then we must ask about the seriousness of the people that allowed the
"go on" for this publication.
Did you ever think about what equipment is available to measure the load
of furnace ?? "Friendly losses" are a main problem of basic building
industries.
I hope that you and other stop to mention this Joke story.
Of course the mentioned reaction is possible and also Urutskov found
energy neutral transmutations as even far more could by found by Proton
21. People that follow & know the field are aware of this since many years.
There is no LENR theory since 30 years and thus we cannot "flush 10
years of LENR theory down the toilet". All so called theories are
nothing more than a collection of non mathematical facts,rules & hopes.
The problem is that people claiming a theory like Widom&Larsen only
manipulate the "unsatisfied feelings" of the field, with ideas that
cannot 100% be excluded...
Jürg
Am 17.07.19 um 20:08 schrieb Axil Axil:
Dear Bob,
We have been through this situation more than once. For some reason
people just can;t believe it. I understand that it is difficult to
flush 10 years of LENR theory down the toilet, but it must be done to
get to the truth.
http://coldfusioncommunity.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/244_JCMNS-Vol24.pdf
7. Puzzle of the Missing Nuclear Energy
A worth noting feature of the Silcal observations was that there was
no dramatic change whatsoever in the energy
dissipation. Using the estimated energy release values of 17.13
MeV/atom of Si or 49.58 MeV per atom of Fe given in
Appendix B, for the postulated nuclear transmutation reactions, it can
be shown that corresponding to 4.25 ton of metal
transmutation, the power generated should have been the equivalent of
the total thermal power generated by hundreds
of 1000MWe nuclear power stations. However, in our plant there was no
evidence of such massive amounts of nuclear
energy being released throughout the 11-week period, giving a handle
to the skeptics to question our claims of ton
level elemental transmutations. In this context it is worth noting
that nobody in published LENR literature (to the
best of our knowledge) has established a clear correlation between the
quantum of transmutation products generated
in carbon arc and the expected nuclear heat release based on atomic
mass considerations. On the other hand neither
has any publication claimed that the Carbon Arc experiment violates
Einstein’s E = mc2 dictum. Thus if indeed the
Silcal transmutation claims are confirmed it would clearly point to
the operation of new Science wherein transmutation
could be occurring without the accompaniment of the expected nuclear
energy release.
In the context of these remarks the arguments of Daniel Szumski
elaborated in his “Least Action Nuclear Process”
(LANP) Theory appear relevant. We learnt about Szumski’s work through
his paper presented at ICCF 20 conference
[13]. Szumski who has taken great pains to analyze in detail the
transmutation observations of George Miley (see
www.LeastActionNuclearProcess.com
<http://www.LeastActionNuclearProcess.com>) argues that both
endothermic and exothermic nuclear reactions can and do occur
concurrently in LENR experiments, partly or wholly cancelling out net
energy release. */_In fact he has referred to
some experimental observations of Mizuno wherein transmutations have
reportedly been observed by him not accompanied
by energy release._/* Szumski is thus not at all surprised by our
observation of “energy neutral” transmutation
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On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 9:43 AM [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Dear Axil.
I do not remember a mass balance analysis of the Indian foundry
changes in total mass wjth apparent transmutations. I doubt the
huge loss of mass you have suggested actually happened.
Bob Cook
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*From:* Axil Axil <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2019 11:47:50 AM
*To:* vortex-l
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely
tobetheprecursor to all future devices
There is a natural tendency in the formulation of LENR theory to
ignore or flat out deny the existence of outlying or
contraindicated LENR processes that are generally observed and
proven by observation but conflict with preconceived notions of
LENR reality.
One of these observations is that transmutation of elements in
LENR does not for the most part yield energy: gamma, heat, light,
particles, and loses mass.
These counter indicators include biological transmutation, the
associated very safe and benign environment that LENR occurs in,
and the unexplained loss of mass and/or energy where that loss is
absolutely required by any proposed theory.
I have in mind the production of ferrosilicon in India where an
electric arc processing method transmutes 4.5 tons of iron and
silicon each day from carbon, oxygen and other ambient elements
inside the environment of the electric arc blast furnace.
The outsized amount of transmutation of so much mass every day
should produce enough energy to meet the power needs of Europe for
a year, and yet that huge amount of energy production is not observed.
Transmutation in the LENR reaction for the most part occurs under
a state of quantum mechanical superposition where that energy
produced and the mass exposed to the LENR reaction is permanently
lost to our reality.
This argument about hydrogen fusion is pointless because the
energy produced by this reaction is invisible to our observation.
The issue is that the weirdness of quantum mechanics is made
manifest to our observation and we cannot understand that it is
happening.
On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 9:54 AM JonesBeene <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
*From: *H LV <mailto:[email protected]>
* How much of the energy in a nuclear reaction is actually
due to mass change?
Is there any reason to think that it would not be all?
Even if sequential hydrogen cluster formation is responsible
for the gain, and there is no fusion at all - the ultimate
source of that heat would still be nuclear mass.
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Jürg Wyttenbach
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