Fred,

Given that this incident occurred over twenty years ago, and given that the information could be very important to others, especially now with the renewed interest in alternatives - and the US having passed the Peak Oil tipping point, can you provide more critical details?

If the name of the Ohio company and the inventors are disclosed, then there is probably someone on vortex in the vicinity of Toledo might be willing to track down the further particulars - even if the inventors have passed away. There would be records in the archives of local newspapers for any type of explosion like this. Even if not on the internet - it would be in microfilm.

Personally, I do not believe in this kind of conspiracy thing coming from our government, because ... for one thing, if they are too slow and stupid to allow known terrorists to learn to fly commercial aircraft (with expired visas) then they certainly are not keeping tabs on fringe inventors (although some times my phone line sounds like a Gene Kelly rehearsal).

If there was this kind of intimidation happening back then and focused on alternative energy - and where explosives were used - it would have to come from perhaps organized crime being hired by either a foreign government or by the oil Cartels - which is not impossible. Any US oil company would be far better off owning the patent rights in a free market, especially considering the low prices for oil then. And if the inventors were not offered big bucks following being "softened up" - this is not an internal US incident.

This kind of coercion - especially if coming from the Oil Cartel - is certainly worthy of investigative journalism, and one suspects that Sterling Allan would be among the interested parties, since he has taken such a shine to the Joe_Cell angle.

I know that you are normally a moderately skeptical scientist, not Reichian, nor no cultist - but you will have to admit that many of the people espousing the Joe_Cell are fans of Reich and have little scientific background (which is probably to be expected).

Jones


----- Original Message ----- From: Frederick Sparber

In the early 80s we were working with a machinist in Ohio that built wire forming equipment to see if he could build machinery (NC) for high speed formation of our patented structural panel.

During our coffee-break session when the subject of energy independence came up he told us the tale of some acquaintances that had built a device (as I know now from what he described) very similar to the Joe Cell.

Their phones were tapped and threatening phone calls were received.

Anyhow they contacted the Feds, and Senator Ed Muskie held hearings with some Detroit auto-makers present, and the Detroit faction agreed to run tests on the vehicle equipped with the device, "if they bring it over".

On the way to Detroit on the Interstate east of Toledo they stopped for coffee and doughnuts. While they were inside, their car in the parking lot
"exploded".
They said, "to hell with it", and headed home.

Wouldn't you?   :-)

Fred

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